Raptor Grades from TSN

Post #1 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:17 pm

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story/?ID=227324&hubname=nba

Pretty Decent.

Calderon doesn't deserve an A+. He's having an amazing season but his defence is TERRIBLE, one of the worst defenders on the team. If you can't defend, you don't deserve an A+.

And I don't buy the argument that Darrick Martin's counselling garners him a B-...but i've discussed my hatred for Martin too many times.

zong · Post #2 » by **zong** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:24 pm

Bargs with an "F"

:rofl:

cdcastellon1 · Post #3 » by **cdcastellon1** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:25 pm

I wont be the dude who says JC has a nice defense, but imo most of you does not see he usually lose his enemy beacuase he tries to help in the paint and have 2 vs 1 defense. The bad thing of this help is you will get attacked by the perimeter easily but in the other hand, you will help your team around the paint, something that is needed due the soft centers we have.

His man to man defense has improved last 5 games imo.

There are worst defenders than JC. He is decent overall imo.

zong · Post #4 » by **zong** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:26 pm

and lmao at Moon's picture

Deadpool_X · Post #5 » by **Deadpool_X** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:27 pm

uhg the whole thing was stupid.

Post #6 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:27 pm

cdcastellon1 wrote:I wont be the dude who says JC has a nice defense, but imo most of you does not see he usually lose his enemy beacuase he tries to help in the paint and have 2 vs 1 defense. The bad thing of this help is you will get attacked by the perimeter easily but in the other hand, you will help your team around the paint, something that is needed due the soft centers we have.

His man to man defense has improved last 5 games imo.

There are worst defenders than JC. He is decent overall imo.

But he doesn't really help underneath, he collapses but stays in the 'inbetween' area and doesn't commit either way. Then his guy leaks out and Calderon loses him for a wide open 3 pointer.

Moon, Bosh, Parker, Nestorovic, Humphries, Delfino, Baston, Dixon, Ford are all better defenders.

That leaves Bargnani, Martin, Kapono...tough competition...

Raptorman_ca · Post #7 » by **Raptorman_ca** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:27 pm

Nailed Hump right on.

Rest are OK. I agree with Duffman on the A+ for Jose. Too high.

hoop_head · Post #8 » by **hoop_head** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:28 pm

Yep, Moon's photo FTW. That's awesome!!

chsh22 · Post #9 » by **chsh22** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:29 pm

Duffman100 wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story/?ID=227324&hubname=nba
Pretty Decent.

Calderon doesn't deserve an A+. He's having an amazing season but his defence is TERRIBLE, one of the worst defenders on the team. If you can't defend, you don't deserve an A+.

Agree totally. At best Jose (who I think is playing very stellar ball atm) deserves an A-.

marcroboy · Post #10 » by **marcroboy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:37 pm

Is that a gum in d mart's mouth or a horribly misshaped premolar???

El Presidente · Post #11 » by **El Presidente** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:40 pm

Bosh gets an A-? He's practically carrying this team over a large stretch of the season. He should get an A+ for effort alone. The justification by the author is that he doesn't drive:

Bosh has been as guilty as anyone on the team of being too passive and relying on the jump shot.

But what the Mofo is forgetting is that we're asking Bosh to defensive rebound, offensive rebound, box out two men and score. The man needs to pace himself to some degree and can't really afford to drive on EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY, he'll die of exhaustion if he does. Now I'm the biggest critic of Bosh when it comes to taking jumpers but he's been really good at not settling of late. If the author actually watched the Raptor games with more than just a rudimentary knowledge of the game or actually played at some level, he'd learn that he needs to give Bosh a ******* break.

RapsVC15 · Post #12 » by **RapsVC15** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:45 pm

This fool actually gave Darrick freakin' Murray a B-, shows how much he knows.

RomaniaLuvTR · Post #13 » by **RomaniaLuvTR** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:04 pm

TJ11 wrote:This fool actually gave Darrick freakin' Murray a B-, shows how much he knows.

exactly my thought...

Tha Cynic · Post #14 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:44 pm

Martin's coaching abilities must be the biggest myth on this team. How can he be doing anything positive for our PGs when you see what he does when he's actually on the floor. He acts more like a guy who just wants to get his shots up before he goes to the bench than a guy who's looking to run the team. I still don't get why he's still around.

Rapcity_11 · Post #15 » by **Rapcity_11** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:04 pm

These grades are a joke...calderon an A+ haha no chance. I'd say A- and Martin at B- also a joke. I'll give him a D and give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a good coach.

ansoncarter · Post #16 » by **ansoncarter** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:20 pm

I don't get why players are praised for being unselfish. Your supposed to be unselfish

James699 · Post #17 » by **James699** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:32 pm

Here are my grades for each player:

Bosh = A+
Calderon = A+
Ford = A+ (Always)

Parker = A
Moon = A

Hump = C
Kapono = C
Rasho = D
Baston = C
Graham = F
Dixon =F
Barg = F
Garbo =F
Delfino =B
Martin = F+

kingr · Post #18 » by **kingr** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:37 pm

This is OT but I honestly hate having to watch Chris Bosh battle 3 men downlow to try to get a rebound.

ldnk · Post #19 » by **ldnk** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:03 pm

ansoncarter wrote:I don't get why players are praised for being unselfish. Your supposed to be unselfish

Because so many players aren't that being unselfish is actually an attribute that you have to give credit for. There comes a point when it is easier to say who isn't selfish than who is.

Usuyami · Post #20 » by **Usuyami** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:18 pm

You guys don't understand D. Mart at all! He's such a great mentor, he demonstrates to Forderon what they shouldn't be doing on the floor! B- FTW!

:rofl: