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Post#1 » by jim rockford » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:14 am

didn't notice a thread on this, somewhat surprisingly

was just watching TSN and they said there's a major website dedicated to getting richard peddie fired?

anyone here going to jump in there and help out?.... there was so much of that in here a couple of years ago.

does anyone know the name of the site? i guess i'm lazy.
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Post#2 » by Taiyab_K » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:15 am

whoa, it's 2004 now?
My name is Taiyab, and I realize there is an intra-team conflict at the Point Guard spot.
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Post#4 » by Illuminati » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:15 am

I'm apart of that site, ask me any Q's.
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Post#5 » by James699 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:22 am

WhAT THE GUY DID TO LEAFS TEAM IS TOTALLY EMBARRASSING. hE DOES not know how to run the Raps or Leafs. MLSE needs new ownership. Heck even Ishiah Thomas would have been a better owner. Peddie is the same guy that hired Babcock over Dr J even when VC told him to hire Dr J. The guy and MLSE are total greedy ppl that know and give a damn about each of the franchises. They know that ppl (bussinessmen) are going to come to games even when they lose. They are equivalent to the Knicks. Ferguson does not know how to sign free agents. They waste their money like garbage. I m not really a fan of Toronto Maple Leafs, but I want what is best for their franchise. I kind of stopped following hockey, because my team lost its star players, and I hate watching them play right now. I still watch a couple of Sens games here and there. Sorry to break it to everyone, but the Senators are by far the best team in Ontario, the rest of Canada, and let alone the whole NHL.
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Post#6 » by rapsrealm » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:23 am

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Post#7 » by lorax » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:24 am

Hockey speaks louder than basketball in these here parts.
Peedie has his pinky's knee deep in the Leafs mess.....so there is chance he will get a pink slip.

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Re: "fire peddie" site? 

Post#8 » by Asterix » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:32 am

jim rockford wrote: i guess i'm lazy.

Nah, we all know you're not lazy Jim, it's because you're a stats-oriented guy and hence subconsciously can't be bothered to look at/for any of these subjective backstabbing anti-Peddie web sites... having said that I'd be interested to hear your opinion of Sir Richard...
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Post#9 » by The-Insider » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:35 am

That site is dumb, Peddie should not be fired from MLSE, but simply removed from any hockey operations.

Look at what this man has done for MLSE:

Despite being unpopular with fans, Peddie has been extraordinarily successful financially. Since taking over MLSE, he has tripled its value to over $1.5 billion, credited to "clever marketing and shrewd dealmaking".[1] As of 2007, the Toronto Maple Leafs, valued at $413 million, are the most valuable franchise in the National Hockey League.


Not bad for a University of Windor Business Admin Degree Major.

It's not that complicated, the Leafs situation, hire somone such as Scott Bowman and have him take care of matters and hire his own staff with full control over all hockey operations. I know he's old, but that does not matter, he's not going to be the GM, he has ties to the most succesfull hockey organisation in recent memory and sure can bring in some experienced personnel capable to of building the Leafs.
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Post#10 » by PopAGat » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:41 am

Who cares about the Leafs.
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Re: "fire peddie" site? 

Post#11 » by jim rockford » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:44 am

Asterix wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Nah, we all know you're not lazy Jim, it's because you're a stats-oriented guy and hence subconsciously can't be bothered to look at/for any of these subjective backstabbing anti-Peddie web sites... having said that I'd be interested to hear your opinion of Sir Richard...


bad on the managing team-side. good on the marketing/business development side. whether babcock was terrible or not, i'd blame peddie for as much of as babcock. seems like peddie and his people had heavy hand in araujo and VC trade (didn't think VC trade was that bad anyway, but should have left it to basketball people)

don't follow the leafs but for years they basically "bought" players. not huge stars but they filled in alot of gaps grabbing guys that other teams didn't want to pay.... so i don't really see toronto having any natural advantage. and frankly, i'm not sure your average young stud wouldn't just rather play in phoenix or miami and not worry about the off-ice media stuff... so i don't think teams are as easily fixable as they once were.... as per john ferguson, frankly i have no idea.

yeah, i laughed when someone said, "it's 2004 again!!!", exactly what i thought.
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Post#12 » by galeon110 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:03 am

Inappropriate comment

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Post#13 » by Jamz18 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:07 am

The-Insider wrote:That site is dumb, Peddie should not be fired from MLSE, but simply removed from any hockey operations.

Look at what this man has done for MLSE:

Despite being unpopular with fans, Peddie has been extraordinarily successful financially. Since taking over MLSE, he has tripled its value to over $1.5 billion, credited to "clever marketing and shrewd dealmaking".[1] As of 2007, the Toronto Maple Leafs, valued at $413 million, are the most valuable franchise in the National Hockey League.


Not bad for a University of Windor Business Admin Degree Major.

It's not that complicated, the Leafs situation, hire somone such as Scott Bowman and have him take care of matters and hire his own staff with full control over all hockey operations. I know he's old, but that does not matter, he's not going to be the GM, he has ties to the most succesfull hockey organisation in recent memory and sure can bring in some experienced personnel capable to of building the Leafs.



Are you on drugs?? This guys screwed the raptors up and im not a hockey fan but he doing that same thing right here.... the money but what about the performance??.... eventually if the leaf aren't performing well enough the money is gonna go down.....He should be fired..... I hate the dude cause he brought in RB rather than Dr.J ( not saying BC not doin a good job).
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Post#14 » by reptar15 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:16 am

Jamz18 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Are you on drugs?? This guys screwed the raptors up and im not a hockey fan but he doing that same thing right here.... the money but what about the performance??.... eventually if the leaf aren't performing well enough the money is gonna go down.....He should be fired..... I hate the dude cause he brought in RB rather than Dr.J ( not saying BC not doin a good job).


peddie didn't even have to do anything to raise money. All he did was raise ticket and concession prices each year
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Post#15 » by emfive » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:19 am

If you are looking for a candidate to run an organization such as the Leafs you will get what you deserve depending on the parameters that are set. Do you think BC would have come here if he had the same rules to follow as Babcock did? No! You get a Babcock type.

Gainey came here asking the same questions any first rate GM would ask and went to take the Montreal job.

Until Peddie is told, Leaf fans are doomed. The guy is a pathetic dweeb who holds on to power as if it actually was his to do with what he wants. He will not reliquish that power until it is wrested from his grimy little grubbing hands. The people who run the TPF are saps for letting him get away with what he does get away with. Does anyone really believe the investment would be worth less if it was properly managed?
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Post#16 » by bigtime105 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:25 am

galeon110 wrote:Leafs are ****, hockey fans can go stick it somewhere.



The Raptors and Leafs have the same parents. Thats no way to talk to your brother.
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Re: "fire peddie" site? 

Post#17 » by Asterix » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:45 am

jim rockford wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
bad on the managing team-side. good on the marketing/business development side.


Yeah I hear ya... seems to me that if he were good managing the team-side of things, that by extension the marketing/business side would fall into place even to a greater extent.

The thing is MLSE unfortunately always seems to have this air of (money-making) self-importance going on and it's tuff for them to get past that, hence a lot of the problems they have are self-inflicted... and in particular with respect to team development, for both the Raptors and the Leafs, I sometimes wish we had an independent owner like Eugene Melnyk rather than these generic, numbskull MLSE committee members running things.

Oh wait, they listen to Sir Richard and of course what's most important is not winning but how much MLSE is in the black... it's the bottom line baby... (hmm... who am i on the other hand to criticize him for that if I were a teacher?)

whether babcock was terrible or not, i'd blame peddie for (the nonsense) as much of as babcock. seems like peddie and his people had heavy hand in araujo and VC trade (didn't think VC trade was that bad anyway, but should have left it to basketball people)

Definately I'd agree lots of postering and dynamics going on back then...

don't follow the leafs but for years they basically "bought" players. not huge stars but they filled in alot of gaps grabbing guys that other teams didn't want to pay.... so i don't really see toronto having any natural advantage. and frankly, i'm not sure your average young stud wouldn't just rather play in phoenix or miami and not worry about the off-ice media stuff... so i don't think teams are as easily fixable as they once were.... as per john ferguson, frankly i have no idea.

Well, I'm a basketball fan first and a Leaf fan second. Having said that, I am somewhat familiar with the Leaf situation just by my hockey family background (I won't get into this much but my nephew played for the baby Leafs and the only one in this forum that can figure that one out in a flash is Lil' Ozzy cuz of our pop quiz 2006 Winter Olympics discussion back when about my 2 nieces...). True enough the Leafs approach has been patchwork at best for several years and in fact it's a borderline psycho-Knicks management style these days but rest assured, I would not want to trade places with any of the god lov'em Leafs mgt team.
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Post#18 » by WD-40 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:54 am

James699 wrote:WhAT THE GUY DID TO LEAFS TEAM IS TOTALLY EMBARRASSING. hE DOES not know how to run the Raps or Leafs. MLSE needs new ownership. Heck even Ishiah Thomas would have been a better owner. Peddie is the same guy that hired Babcock over Dr J even when VC told him to hire Dr J. The guy and MLSE are total greedy ppl that know and give a damn about each of the franchises. They know that ppl (bussinessmen) are going to come to games even when they lose. They are equivalent to the Knicks. Ferguson does not know how to sign free agents. They waste their money like garbage. I m not really a fan of Toronto Maple Leafs, but I want what is best for their franchise. I kind of stopped following hockey, because my team lost its star players, and I hate watching them play right now. I still watch a couple of Sens games here and there. Sorry to break it to everyone, but the Senators are by far the best team in Ontario, the rest of Canada, and let alone the whole NHL.


Heard this how many years in a row? I hope the Sens win but I hoped that last year too. So...we'll see who's the best team in the nhl. Detroit looks good. And my Canucks have a better goalie. :wink:

As to Peddie, he must be really good at making money as he's an ass at everything else. My friend, his friend is related to Peddie. I think uncle. And even he says Peddie is an ass.
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Post#19 » by WD-40 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:07 am

Does anyone really believe the investment would be worth less if it was properly managed?


It's a mind blowing thought but I've heard smart dudes wonder that question before. It would explain a lot. Such as, Peddie having a job. Never doubt MLSE. Raps need to be properly managed, but do the Leafs?

It's sad. I feel bad for Leaf fans but they need a bloody wake up call. Team should have started sucking years ago. Kubina, McCabe, trading first picks. :rofl:

You can only use buckets to empty the water of a sinking ship so long.

Fire Peddie indeed. Except it's not 2004, it's 2008, and he still has a job.

Kudo's Peddie :clap: , I can't stand you imo, but you must have some serious talent.
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Post#20 » by The-Insider » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:22 am

Jamz18 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Are you on drugs?? This guys screwed the raptors up and im not a hockey fan but he doing that same thing right here.... the money but what about the performance??.... eventually if the leaf aren't performing well enough the money is gonna go down.....He should be fired..... I hate the dude cause he brought in RB rather than Dr.J ( not saying BC not doin a good job).


Did you even read the quote or the post?

Despite being unpopular with fans, Peddie has been extraordinarily successful financially. Since taking over MLSE, he has tripled its value to over $1.5 billion, credited to "clever marketing and shrewd dealmaking".[1] As of 2007, the Toronto Maple Leafs, valued at $413 million, are the most valuable franchise in the National Hockey League


He's done a spectacular job financially. And that's definitely an important component in running a franchise. Firing him from MLSE would be absurd, but removing him from basketball (best thing that's happened to the franchise) and hockey operation is definitely in the company
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