What trade assets do Raptors have?

easyflow · Post #1 » by **easyflow** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:06 am

Realistically, what trade assets do the Raptors currently have? We have some glaring needs that need to be addressed, so what assets do we have to trade, and what is their current market worth?

TJ Ford - with recent injury, what is his trade value. will insurance cover future injury? will a team be able to get an injury exception if he goes down again or simply retires? How much is he worth?

Nesterovich - expiring contract, do we hold on to this, or trade him to another team in need of cap room in 09/10?

Bargnani - is his trade stock at the lowest now or will it continue to go down? is the school of thought to continue to wait and see if he develops? we can't wait long. is there any chance of getting good value for him now?

Kapono - hasn't been as useful on Raptors thus far. would be far more valuable on a contending team looking to add some limited minute firepower. what can we get for him?

Dixon, Graham, Bason, Martin - filler, all expendable and have little value.

Not asking for all kinds of trade scenarios, more interested in trade value...

PopAGat · Post #2 » by **PopAGat** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:36 am

Calderon is a HUGE asset for us. He has VERY high value. We could get some high picks and some players for him.

miruss2001 · Post #3 » by **miruss2001** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:36 am

TJ is untradable becuase of questions about his heath. Until he proves he can play at the level he was before, he isn't worth much.

Rasho expires next year... so this year his value is far less than next.

Bargs- still some value but far less than what it should be. You'll never realize a return on him what you expect as a Raps fans. He'll bring you another asset of dubious value. In short, you'll swap one underachiever for another.

Kap- could get you something decent, particularly as part of a wider package. Teams need what he brings come playoff time and his contract is not too outlandish.

easyflow · Post #4 » by **easyflow** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:38 am

PopAGat wrote:Calderon is a HUGE asset for us. He has VERY high value. We could get some high picks and some players for him.

sure but then what are we left with? we would then need a new starting PG, as well as all our other needs. Not sure that is the best move, especially considering how well we have played with Calderon at point.

RapTelligence · Post #5 » by **RapTelligence** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:39 am

If Hoffa could be traded every one on our team is a tradeble assets.

P.S. Except D-Mart.

J Dilla · Post #6 » by **J Dilla** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:56 am

Bargnani for Ty Thomas, get er done BC.

Both players need a change of scenery in my opinion. Raptors need defense and rebounding and Ty Thomas can help the Raptors in that area. Smitch is the perfect coach for him.

easyflow · Post #7 » by **easyflow** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:27 am

hump43 wrote:Bargnani for Ty Thomas, get er done BC.

Both players need a change of scenery in my opinion. Raptors need defense and rebounding and Ty Thomas can help the Raptors in that area. Smitch is the perfect coach for him.

Interesting, but he's similar to Bosh. What about something like;

Jason Kapono for Jerome James
and/or
Ford + Dixon for Maggette & Knight

Move Bargnani to SF and sign Magloire in the off season for cheap to shore up the C position, and you got a guy that really wants to be there, he'll fight for playing time against JJ. Lots of option, would have been better to have traded TJ this past offseason though. damn.

omeloon · Post #8 » by **omeloon** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:34 am

Calderon's our biggest trade asset, but I'm not sure we want to risk trading him right now with how the TJ situation is.

Bargnani might be able to get us Gasol with the right fillers/sweetners, who knows.

Other than that, I don't think we have anyone that will bring back anything special. GS and Orlando would probably love to get Humphries, but they don't really have anyone worth Humphries so we're better off keeping him.

Rasho is not an ending contract by the way.

TDGlenmanor · Post #9 » by **TDGlenmanor** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:49 am

TJ Ford's Value is 0 and will be for the rest of his career

Ford retires at the end of his 3 yr deal with the raps

RapTelligence · Post #10 » by **RapTelligence** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:04 am

easyflow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Interesting, but he's similar to Bosh. What about something like;

Jason Kapono for Jerome James
and/or
Ford + Dixon for Maggette & Knight

Move Bargnani to SF and sign Magloire in the off season for cheap to shore up the C position, and you got a guy that really wants to be there, he'll fight for playing time against JJ. Lots of option, would have been better to have traded TJ this past offseason though. damn.

J Dilla · Post #11 » by **J Dilla** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:11 am

I wish Mags was the same player.

omeloon · Post #12 » by **omeloon** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:11 am

Moving Bargnani to SF won't do anything unless we're bringing in a much better center than Magloire. If anything we need a SF who's going to play much closer to the basket on offense so that Bargnani can play on the perimeter more often.

galeon110 · Post #13 » by **galeon110** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:39 am

Bargs shouldn't be in any trade talks. IT'S HIS **** SECOND YEAR FOR CHRIST SAKES. A lot of you really need to learn something about patience.

Post #14 » by **Hassassin** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:50 am

easyflow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Interesting, but he's similar to Bosh. What about something like;

Jason Kapono for Jerome James
and/or
Ford + Dixon for Maggette & Knight

Move Bargnani to SF and sign Magloire in the off season for cheap to shore up the C position, and you got a guy that really wants to be there, he'll fight for playing time against JJ. Lots of option, would have been better to have traded TJ this past offseason though. damn.

Would only make sense if he starts playing like

Post #15 » by **Schad** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:56 am

easyflow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Interesting, but he's similar to Bosh. What about something like;

Jason Kapono for Jerome James

Jerome James might be useful for 10 games at the end of the '09/'10 season, when he realizes that he will have to show the slightest bit of interest in basketball to get a vet exception contract for the next season. Like Kapono, he's a one trick pony. Sadly, that trick involves the rapid consumption of beef products.

villabong · Post #16 » by **villabong** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:59 am

easyflow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Interesting, but he's similar to Bosh. What about something like;

Jason Kapono for Jerome James
and/or
Ford + Dixon for Maggette & Knight

Move Bargnani to SF and sign Magloire in the off season for cheap to shore up the C position, and you got a guy that really wants to be there, he'll fight for playing time against JJ. Lots of option, would have been better to have traded TJ this past offseason though. damn.

Please tell me you're not being serious. Jerome James, you've got to be kidding. And just when I thought your ideas couldn't get any worse, you want to trade Ford for an expiring contract. Why don't we wait to see how Ford comes back from his injury before trading a guy who was a top 10 point guard in the league before his injury? Have you heard of the expression buy low and sell high?

easyflow · Post #17 » by **easyflow** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:01 am

omeloon wrote:Moving Bargnani to SF won't do anything unless we're bringing in a much better center than Magloire. If anything we need a SF who's going to play much closer to the basket on offense so that Bargnani can play on the perimeter more often.

ummm, ya, thats why i proposed trying to get jerome james, or someone like him to play C and magloire as backup. guess you missed that part.

villabong · Post #18 » by **villabong** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:02 am

Schadenfreude wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Jerome James might be useful for 10 games at the end of the '09/'10 season, when he realizes that he will have to show the slightest bit of interest in basketball to get a vet exception contract for the next season. Like Kapono, he's a one trick pony. Sadly, that trick involves the rapid consumption of beef products.

He's also one of the best at offering the least bang for the buck.

Post #19 » by **Schad** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:12 am

easyflow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

ummm, ya, thats why i proposed trying to get jerome james, or someone like him to play C and magloire as backup. guess you missed that part.

Some fun Jerome James facts:

- With the Knicks, he is averaging a foul every 3.85 minutes...enough for him to foul out, on average in under half a game.

- In the two previous seasons, he has had more fouls and turnovers than field goals made, free throws made, assists, steals, offensive rebounds, and blocks combined.

- He's 32, and has the maturity of a fetus.

The Journey Man · Post #20 » by **The Journey Man** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:13 am

The Raptors have a few tradeable assets, some of which I think people are undervaluing.

The Raptors have their draft pick, which may be in the 18-22 range and they have the MLE. I think these two assets will have some significance to what we can do in the summer.

It seems good teams necessarily find one gem that becomes part of their core lower in the first round (Tayshaun Prince, Josh Howard, Tony Parker) and I think by necessity, we need to find a gem in this draft that can become part of the core.

In addtion, the MLE could bring in some guys with potential to become solid starters and have a significant impact on our roster. Guys that come to mind that would be unrestricted this summer are : DeSagna Diop, Matt Barnes, Patrick O'Bryant, Stromile Swift. Hell even, maybe Smitch might make Kwame Brown useful to us.

Further, Rasho's expiring, Calderon and Bargnani (assuming he at least reaches the level of play of last year), we have have some very good assets to deal in the summer.

Personally, I'd like to grab a big with our MLE, a guy like O'Bryant or Diop, hopefully find a gem in the draft to fill the two spot and tangle around Rasho+Bargs or Rasho+Calderon for a legit 5 (maybe Sammy D?).