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these two points were buried in the AP game summary.

"The Raptors have held opponents to under 80 points an NBA best nine times this season, the most by a Raptors team since the 2003-04 season [18]."

And

"Toronto has won seven of its past nine, averaging 103.7 points for and 94.8 against

Some pretty impressive stats...

I think it has more to do with pace, than the way the Raps are defense. The 03-04 team, played at the slowest pace, which is why the held their opponents to under 90 points. It was so bad watching that team win some games 72-68. I think opponents fg% is a better indication of defense than opponents ppg.

But we're playing very s l o w l y. I think Calderon, knowing that he has to play 40 minutes, is basically walking the ball up the court every time.

When TJ comes back, things will be different in almost every way - i.e penetration by PG's, 2nd unit production, fast break points. Overall PPG will go up, offensively and defensively.

I can't wait.

tecumseh18 wrote:But we're playing very s l o w l y. I think Calderon, knowing that he has to play 40 minutes, is basically walking the ball up the court every time.

When TJ comes back, things will be different in almost every way - i.e penetration by PG's, 2nd unit production, fast break points. Overall PPG will go up, offensively and defensively.

I can't wait.

there's some truth to the pace argument but we seem to be playing fast enough to score a lot of points

Very impressive numbers. sadly numbers don't show the whole picture and we all know this team needs to improve on the defensive end.

there's some truth to the pace argument but we seem to be playing fast enough to score a lot of points

I think we have been scoring a lot because the Raps have been shooting the lights out the last few weeks. They took 69 shots in Boston, yet put up 114 points.

Pretty impressive despite the fact that we give up a buttload of rebounds.

tecumseh18 wrote:But we're playing very s l o w l y. I think Calderon, knowing that he has to play 40 minutes, is basically walking the ball up the court every time.

When TJ comes back, things will be different in almost every way - i.e penetration by PG's, 2nd unit production, fast break points. Overall PPG will go up, offensively and defensively.

I can't wait.

or we can totally collapse and it would take us another 10 games to adjust

Here are our numbers in January (10 games).

Defense:
FG% - 0.446
3FG% - 0.374
FT% - 0.748

Offense:
FG% - 0.494
3FG% - 0.438
FT% - 0.804

Awesome.

bill russell wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



there's some truth to the pace argument but we seem to be playing fast enough to score a lot of points

True, against Boston, where our shooting percentage was out of this world. But Jose for that game was in maximum drive and kick mode, setting up all the open looks we had. Rondo just couldn't keep up with him. Heinsohn speculated that Rondo might have some kinda injury as Telfair was doing the same thing last night.

Against Sacramento, the Kings were reintegrating injured players into the lineup. Caught them just at the right time.

I guess I'm saying the Raptors are crap when they lose, and lucky when they win.

chris anderson anyone?...he's due back from the suspension and the hornets may not tender him a pro rated contract making him an unrestricted free agent free to sign anywhere...he's what this team needs,he's all hustle.

pretty numbers, but we all know the truth

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True, against Boston, where our shooting percentage was out of this world. But Jose for that game was in maximum drive and kick mode, setting up all the open looks we had. Rondo just couldn't keep up with him. Heinsohn speculated that Rondo might have some kinda injury as Telfair was doing the same thing last night.

Against Sacramento, the Kings were reintegrating injured players into the lineup. Caught them just at the right time.

I guess I'm saying the Raptors are crap when they lose, and lucky when they win.

I love listening to Heinsohn but one of the things that makes him so entertaining is that he can make an alibi for anyone or anything in green. Rondo looked okay to me when he had a clear path to the basket.

As for the Raps, defense doesn't happen by luck or accident, and when the raps are determined to play good defense they can be formidable. They deserve credit for that, particularly if you're going to call them crap on the many nights when they don't make the effort on D.

Offense, we do get lucky (if the other team isn't trying), and we are streaky, obviously.

Andiamo wrote:chris anderson anyone?...he's due back from the suspension and the hornets may not tender him a pro rated contract making him an unrestricted free agent free to sign anywhere...he's what this team needs,he's all hustle.

No Thanks!

For one BC would never go after a player with that type of history. Anderson is bad for the game and bad for the NBA. I hope they deny him reinstatement actually.

I think if our defence is better right now, it's because we've figured out how to make the best use of Rasho. When he came into the Atlanta game last week, they just couldn't make anything happen at all.

I just did a Rasho tribute on the Humphries thread, and now there's a Rasho tribute thread, so I'll leave it at that.

[edit] BTW, I've learned to love Heinsohn myself. He really knows the game, and you just have to accept that the Celts are the only thing that exist in his world.

supersub15 wrote:Here are our numbers in January (10 games).

Defense:
FG% - 0.446
3FG% - 0.374
FT% - 0.748

Offense:
FG% - 0.494
3FG% - 0.438
FT% - 0.804

Awesome.

Yea man, we held them to 0.748 FT% !!!

LittleOzzy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



No Thanks!

For one BC would never go after a player with that type of history. Anderson is bad for the game and bad for the NBA. I hope they deny him reinstatement actually.

that's to bad,i think the kid deserves a break.we all make mistakes.he was a fan favorite and this squad lacks grit.

tecumseh18 wrote:I think if our defence is better right now, it's because we've figured out how to make the best use of Rasho. When he came into the Atlanta game last week, they just couldn't make anything happen at all.

I just did a Rasho tribute on the Humphries thread, and now there's a Rasho tribute thread, so I'll leave it at that.

[edit] BTW, I've learned to love Heinsohn myself. He really knows the game, and you just have to accept that the Celts are the only thing that exist in his world.

I agree about Rasho. I think we're going to see a lot more of him towards the end of the season and in the playoffs.

Here's a better debate than TJ vs Jose. Who's more of a homer, Heinsohn or Swirsk.

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I agree about Rasho. I think we're going to see a lot more of him towards the end of the season and in the playoffs.

Here's a better debate than TJ vs Jose. Who's more of a homer, Heinsohn or Swirsk.

That's not much of a debate. It's clearly Tommy.

Chuck rarely blames refs for bad calls, when Tommy on the other hand will take up half the broadcast talking about one call.

Chuck also points out when the other team is playing well. If it wasn't for the play by play guy in Boston you would think Tommy could only see one team.