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TJ Ford rehab update
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:55 am
by J Dilla
Heres an article by Paul Jones regarding TJ and his conditioning. Looks like things are going well.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2008 ... ones_ford/
A typical day for Ford sees him arrive at the gym around 9 a.m. and work for half an hour on core and stability exercises.
The next 30-45 minutes focus on shooting with Ford needing to make 100 shots from five different spots on the floor.
But Lucas is also working on another important aspect of the game with Ford.
"We've been working on learning how to fall," said Lucas. "We use mats and he is working on how to fall and protect himself."
Ford also plays one-on-one with D-league players and before some additional physical rehab close to noon that centers on strengthening muscles in his neck area.
I was thinking the whole time he must be working on falls, and strengthening his neck.
Looks like he'll be fine thank god.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:58 am
by omeloon
Sounds like a pretty cool and good idea. It'll be interesting to see if he starts playing a bit more controlled. Might actually start looking like Forderon all by himself.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:29 am
by Hillarimax
I don't really think the falling practice would help, because imo, much of the damage is coming from the defender's hits rather than the fall. The strengthening of the neck is good idea, although I have never heard that neck muscle can be trained before.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:35 am
by AbC?
TJ was the MVP of this team before he went down, similar to how Calderon is performing right now.
If he comes back and plays like he did before, watch out. Kapono, Delfino, Humphries and RASHO will all get so much better with TJ running the backup point.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:41 am
by J Dilla
Hillarimax wrote:I don't really think the falling practice would help, because imo, much of the damage is coming from the defender's hits rather than the fall. The strengthening of the neck is good idea, although I have never heard that neck muscle can be trained before.
TJ has taken many hits in his career, and he hasnt had any problems. It's more of his falls that really affect him. If TJ stayed on his feet after Horford smacked him, I think he would've been ok. The hard falls initiate the stingers Im guessing.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:55 am
by Fattocks
hump43 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
TJ has taken many hits in his career, and he hasnt had any problems. It's more of his falls that really affect him. If TJ stayed on his feet after Horford smacked him, I think he would've been ok. The hard falls initiate the stingers Im guessing.
Not to pick at the scab, but Horford pulled him backwards to the point where his legs were out from under his center of gravity. No way he could have stayed on his feet. Falling is more for injury prevention once you know you're going down.
This is why people were saying he was out before he hit the ground since he was so limp.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:59 am
by Marlowe
Hillarimax wrote:I don't really think the falling practice would help, because imo, much of the damage is coming from the defender's hits rather than the fall. The strengthening of the neck is good idea, although I have never heard that neck muscle can be trained before.
In hockey, I believe they encourage strenghtening the neck muscles. I'm sure it's very common in sports where contact is allowed.
While neck muscle training may not completely eliminate the risk, this coupled with falling excercises should help mitigate the risk of injury.
More importantly it should help TJ feel more psychologically confident that he can withstand a hit.
Hopefully TJ is back soon. If he get quickly to his form just after the injury we can really make a strong run for a top 3-4 spot in the conference.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:02 am
by Boogie!
hump43 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
TJ has taken many hits in his career, and he hasnt had any problems. It's more of his falls that really affect him. If TJ stayed on his feet after Horford smacked him, I think he would've been ok. The hard falls initiate the stingers Im guessing.
the stinger was caused by the hit though because his neck snapped back.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:14 am
by Maximillion
According to Lucas it sounds like Ford will be very close to his old self when he returns.
And just when will that be?
"Very shortly" according to Lucas.
chea.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:32 am
by Fairview4Life
So he's out trying to prevent stingers in the future by strengthening his neck and learning how to fall? So he's not actually a coward, as was suggested a few days ago? Great news.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:35 am
by Nia
Fairview4Life wrote:So he's out trying to prevent stingers in the future by strengthening his neck and learning how to fall? So he's not actually a coward, as was suggested a few days ago? Great news.
Yeah those were my favourite lines from last week and this week. I also assume people are now going to be back on the bandwagon?.....
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:08 pm
by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan
good to hear
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:32 pm
by Chevy Chase
I took Judo when I was a kid and the first three belts were mostly about learning to fall. We would do drill where we would through ourselves backwards and learn to mittigate the impact by rolling through the fall and using our hand properly. It can really make a difference.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:01 pm
by Komodo
Marlowe wrote:In hockey, I believe they encourage strenghtening the neck muscles. I'm sure it's very common in sports where contact is allowed.
Paul Kariya used to have a major problem with recurring concussions. He spent a summer strengthening his neck and was fine. This will only help Ford.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:03 pm
by Spragga
I wonder if Marcus Williams is down there now trying to get in shape or is he back with the nets.
Former NBA point guard and head coach John Lucas has been brought in to work with the New Jersey Nets' Marcus Williams for a few days, and if yesterday's one-hour workout was any indication, the second-year point guard is in for a very rough few days.
"The drills are intense," an exhausted Williams confirmed. "He didn't let up
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:11 pm
by PrinceV
I think with Calderon's play as of late helps TJ to rehab, with respects to not having to rush back.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:13 pm
by LittleOzzy
Nice find, thanks for the update.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:26 pm
by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan
sci96krusty wrote:I took Judo when I was a kid and the first three belts were mostly about learning to fall. We would do drill where we would through ourselves backwards and learn to mittigate the impact by rolling through the fall and using our hand properly. It can really make a difference.
Judo's great. you find even if you only took it a few years, you don't really forget how to protect yourself in a fall, same trick pro wrestlers use when they fall or "take bumps" btw. The instincts to use leverage and momentum, I find stay with you too. I'd recommend an intro to Judo to anyone.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:26 pm
by mintsa
We really need him back. No matter how good Jose is playing with the extended minutes. We need both of them if were going to go anywhere in the playoffs.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:56 pm
by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan
"In my 35 years in the NBA, I haven't seen five better point guards than T.J. when he is right, and that's saying a lot because I've seen a lot of them," said Lucas. "Those guys aren't developed they are born."
some high praise... And I don't know why, but I believe him. There's not a player in the league I have more respect for than Grant Hill. He could have kept his guaranteed money with all his setbacks, but he put it on himself to fight to come back. I know in the last couple days I've been skeptical of the future with TJ due to the lack of info and timetable. But with this article today, and if it's going as good as it sounds, TJ is reminding me of Grant Hill.