Point the finger at Colangelo

raptorsfan13 · Post #1 » by **raptorsfan13** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:42 am

I know i am going to get flamed for this but it needs to be addressed.

Since the Oakley / Antonia Davis era this team has struggled with rebounding. We have lost more then our fair share of games over the past 5 years because we are getting out rebounded night in and night out.

Babcock failed to get Bosh some help and he got canned. Now Colangelo is going down the exact same path. Don't get me wrong we are dealing with two totally different gm's and Colangelo has taken us much further than any one of us would have expected in such a short period of time.

But when you see your allstar battling hard night in and night out and wearing down every night because he is constantly getting pushed around wouldn't you be doing whatever you can to help him out????

If he paid any attention to what happened in the past he knows that by seasons end Bosh will be beaten up and battered to the point that come playoff time he will have no gas left in the tank.

So instead of pointing your finger at Kapono, AP, Bargs and Rasho point it at the man who knows we have a problem and does nothing to fix it.

Mack11 · Post #2 » by **Mack11** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:44 am

yeah we have a thread just few down with the same jest.

and must we have these kind of threads after every loss?

Lanny-Barbie · Post #3 » by **Lanny-Barbie** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:44 am

Yep, that's wildly inappropriate. Check your PMs.

-Schad.

MikeM · Post #4 » by **MikeM** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:45 am

One game where we were destroyed on the glass. We're in the top half of the league in opposition offensive rebounds last time I checked which was pretty recently.

Vlade Divac · Post #5 » by **Vlade Divac** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:46 am

Imagine if we can swap #1s with LAL. And get Kwame!!!

Live Free · Post #6 » by **Live Free** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:49 am

so he gets a 7 footer with the potential as big as the galaxy who is supposedly a lights out shooter who can stretch the defense just so bosh can get more room to operate and get the load off him.. he gets the best three point shooter in the league which also is supposed to stretch the defense and give bosh more room to operate while takin the load off chris.. has the best 1-2 combo at the pg spot who are just amazing at creating for others.. gets two vets in ap and rasho who provide leadership.. creates a gem outta nothing in jamario moon.. dude you gotta be kiddin me.. bc laid out everything for this squad.. all we need is execution.. this is the freakin nba..

kcthekid · Post #7 » by **kcthekid** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:49 am

calm down its been less than 1.5 yrs..

HaZe123 · Post #8 » by **HaZe123** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:50 am

I wouldn't mind getting Reggie Evans to help out Bosh on the boards.

Joker · Post #9 » by **Joker** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:50 am

MikeM wrote:One game where we were destroyed on the glass. We're in the top half of the league in opposition offensive rebounds last time I checked which was pretty recently.

Yeah, there is no trend whatsoever of us losing games on 2nd chance points

J Dilla · Post #10 » by **J Dilla** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:53 am

BC said he's banking on the "revolution" of the game in acquiring jumpshooters. That's his major flaw. That means if he could fill all positions with 3 point shooters, he would do it.

Kapono needs to go. He's overpaid and could probably fetch a servicable player like Kwame Brown, or that dude who killed us tonight, Andray Blatche.

Raptolicism · Post #11 » by **Raptolicism** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:55 am

I'm relatively new with posting and stuff, but I am starting to understand when experienced posters reply to threads like this one, with "Mod, please lock".

P.S. Mod, please lock.

The Notic · Post #12 » by **The Notic** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:57 am

hump43 wrote:Kapono needs to go. He's overpaid and could probably fetch a servicable player like Kwame Brown, or that dude who killed us tonight, Andray Blatche.

Okay. Wow. Great. Breathe. 1...2...3..

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Kwame, serviceable? ahahahahahahaha

Thanks, man. This just made my night. Freakin' A.

MikeM · Post #13 » by **MikeM** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:58 am

Joker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah, there is no trend whatsoever of us losing games on 2nd chance points

We're 6th in the league in offensive rebounds against. We give up 0.1 more per game than Boston who is 5th.

We didn't lose the game tonight because of 2nd chance points. We lost because we have no offense.

Shak23 · Post #14 » by **Shak23** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:58 am

one word: patience

Tommy Gun · Post #15 » by **Tommy Gun** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:59 am

hump43 wrote:BC said he's banking on the "revolution" of the game in acquiring jumpshooters. That's his major flaw. That means if he could fill all positions with 3 point shooters, he would do it.

Kapono needs to go. He's overpaid and could probably fetch a servicable player like Kwame Brown, or that dude who killed us tonight, Andray Blatche.

You have to be joking--Kwame is arguably as bad as Bargs. Also, having the two worst #1 picks in the last 10 years probably wouldnt be good for team morale...

gangstaff · Post #16 » by **gangstaff** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:00 am

mad-mo wrote:so he gets a 7 footer with the potential as big as the galaxy who is supposedly a lights out shooter who can stretch the defense just so bosh can get more room to operate and get the load off him.. he gets the best three point shooter in the league which also is supposed to stretch the defense and give bosh more room to operate while takin the load off chris.. has the best 1-2 combo at the pg spot who are just amazing at creating for others.. gets two vets in ap and rasho who provide leadership.. creates a gem outta nothing in jamario moon.. dude you gotta be kiddin me.. bc laid out everything for this squad.. all we need is execution.. this is the freakin nba..

His Galactus-like 7 footer is a horrible C and bad value for a #1 overall.
The best 3 point shooter in the league has had little impact on our team, while getting paid the MLE.
1/2 of the PG duo was acquired by Babcock, and BC's half is constantly and seriously injured.
AP and Rasho were great last year, but are below average this year...and are still signed through next year.
Can't dispute Moon. :lol:

I love that guy! Even if he can't shoot.

I think BC has done well for us, an made us respectable which is a huge accomplishment...and until the trade deadline passes I won't totally give up hope. But we certainly aren't looking like a contender in a few years any more.

I think it's valid criticism that the rather gaping hole in our roster centering (haha) around Bargs and our rebounding hasn't been solved during his short tenure. If the guy is such a genius, why hasn't he robbed someone like Elgin Baylor for Kaman??

Post #17 » by **Schad** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:07 am

There are two types of posts in this thread:

-Reasonable people telling you that one loss is not the end of the world in a season consisting of eighty-two games.

-And people telling you to stick extremities into orifices.

I'm siding with the former, and as such, I'm locking this. PM me with concerns.