Jose Calderon putting up historic % right now.

KRANG · Post #1 » by **KRANG** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:58 pm

On NBA tv last night Rick Kamla was talking about Jose and he said that only 3 players in the league average better than 90% from the FT line, better than 50% from the field and better than 40% from 3.

Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
Jose Calderon.

He went on to say that only 2 players in HISTORY have ever done this over an entire season. Larry Bird and I can't remember who the other guy was. It might have been Magic but I'm not certain. These numbers are out of this world.

This guy should be an all-star.Sorry if this was discussed already.

Cassius · Post #2 » by **Cassius** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:04 pm

I'm pretty sure Nash is the other guy.

Steve is the reason why this stat line has been brought up recently.

Post #3 » by **Schad** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:07 pm

The company isn't quite that exclusive, but it's still a remarkable accomplishment. Previous 50/40/90 guys:

Larry Bird (x2), '86/'87 and '87/'88 - .525/.400/.900 and .527/.414/.916

Dirk Nowitzki, '06/'07 - .502/.416/.904

Reggie Miller, '93/'94 - .503/.421/.908

Steve Nash, '05/'06 - .512/.439/.921

Mark Price, '88/'89 - .526/.441/.901

Steve Kerr, '95/'96 - .506/.515/.929

If Jose can up his 3pt average by .2% by the end of the season, he'll be only the second player in the 50/45/90 club after Kerr.

Kosta · Post #4 » by **Kosta** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:07 pm

I could see him just missing on the free throw percentage.

And we don't know if he's an all-star yet, highly unlikely though after hearing about Joe Johnson making it.

KG1585 · Post #5 » by **KG1585** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:08 pm

I am amazed at the fact the Jose has improved his shooting so much that, he has become automatic. In his first year defenders would dare him to shoot.

dagger · Post #6 » by **dagger** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:08 pm

It's time, perhaps, to harken back to what our friend Hollinger said of Jose in his pre-season assessment. While greatly admiring Jose, he was still wrong on several levels.

2007-08 outlook: I have grave doubts that Calderon will repeat his breakout season of 2006-07, mostly because that shooting percentage in the basket area screams out fluke from the hilltops. The more interesting debate is whether he can be better than Ford. Though the backup all season long, Calderon outplayed Ford last season, and even if his numbers drop off, Ford's are nearly as likely to do the same, which means he could outplay his overstudy again.

If so, the Raptors face a very tough decision this summer. Calderon is a free-agent-to-be, and if he produces anywhere close to his level of a season ago, he's vastly underpaid at $2.3 million. That could make him a trade target if another team covets his Bird rights this summer, especially if the Raps sink back to the Eastern pack this season (a fairly realistic possibility). Alternatively, Toronto needs to decide if it makes sense to break the bank for two point guards, at a position that's customarily the league's least well-compensated.

Kosta · Post #7 » by **Kosta** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:09 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:The company isn't quite that exclusive, but it's still a remarkable accomplishment. Previous 50/40/90 guys:

Larry Bird (x2), '86/'87 and '87/'88 - .525/.400/.900 and .527/.414/.916

Dirk Nowitzki, '06/'07 - .502/.416/.904

Reggie Miller, '93/'94 - .503/.421/.908

Steve Nash, '05/'06 - .512/.439/.921

Mark Price, '88/'89 - .526/.441/.901

Steve Kerr, '95/'96 - .506/.515/.929

If Jose can up his 3pt average by .2% by the end of the season, he'll be only the second player in the 50/45/90 club after Kerr.

Those guys are regarded as some of the best shooters of all time. I can't even begin to imagine Calderon entering that list.

AfricanSensation · Post #8 » by **AfricanSensation** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:10 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:The company isn't quite that exclusive, but it's still a remarkable accomplishment. Previous 50/40/90 guys:

Larry Bird (x2), '86/'87 and '87/'88 - .525/.400/.900 and .527/.414/.916

Dirk Nowitzki, '06/'07 - .502/.416/.904

Reggie Miller, '93/'94 - .503/.421/.908

Steve Nash, '05/'06 - .512/.439/.921

Mark Price, '88/'89 - .526/.441/.901

Steve Kerr, '95/'96 - .506/.515/.929

If Jose can up his 3pt average by .2% by the end of the season, he'll be only the second player in the 50/45/90 club after Kerr.

Yes its not that exclusive, Imean even Reggie Miller and Mark Price did it....

I kid, I kid :-)

KRANG · Post #9 » by **KRANG** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:10 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:The company isn't quite that exclusive, but it's still a remarkable accomplishment. Previous 50/40/90 guys:

Larry Bird (x2), '86/'87 and '87/'88 - .525/.400/.900 and .527/.414/.916

Dirk Nowitzki, '06/'07 - .502/.416/.904

Reggie Miller, '93/'94 - .503/.421/.908

Steve Nash, '05/'06 - .512/.439/.921

Mark Price, '88/'89 - .526/.441/.901

Steve Kerr, '95/'96 - .506/.515/.929

If Jose can up his 3pt average by .2% by the end of the season, he'll be only the second player in the 50/45/90 club after Kerr.

Thanks for the numbers. I didn't know there were that many guys to do that. But still, he'd only be the 6th player to do it. Wow, he'd be among some of the greatest shooters of all time.

dagger · Post #10 » by **dagger** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:15 pm

I'm amazed by Jose's 45% 3-pt average. It really helps the pick and role because you can't leave Jose unguarded without taking a hit. And Jose doesn't shoot from the pocket as much as he does from the top of the arc. He's not doing it the easy way.

Post #11 » by **Schad** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:15 pm

Kosta wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Those guys are regarded as some of the best shooters of all time. I can't even begin to imagine Calderon entering that list.

Absolutely; I almost consider it to be more meaningful to be on a deeper list entirely comprised of the best in the business rather than one of just a couple; it's hard to call it a 'fluke' or meaningless stat when you can go down the list of those to previously accomplish it and see practically all of the great shooters of the past two decades.

For those curious, Kapono missed .500 FG% by .6%, and .900 FT% by .8% last season...

CB4_Toronto_Raptors · Post #12 » by **CB4_Toronto_Raptors** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:16 pm

Kosta wrote:I could see him just missing on the free throw percentage.

And we don't know if he's an all-star yet, highly unlikely though after hearing about Joe Johnson making it.

Really!? This year? No way deserves it...

KRANG · Post #13 » by **KRANG** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:18 pm

CB4_Toronto_Raptors wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Really!? This year? No way deserves it...

I hate to go off-topic in my own thread, but thers no way JJ makes it. That would be a joke if he did.

viceroy · Post #14 » by **viceroy** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:20 pm

im digusted they let a trash player like joe johnson into the all star game , sure joe johnson is an allstar at losing, but he doesnt belong among true all stars of this league . and they picked this loser over a guy who actually carries his team to victories being paid 1/5 of the salary going to joe schmuck. disgusting.

will · Post #15 » by **will** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:23 pm

Hand Jose the MVP trophy right this moment.

The Boshpit! · Post #16 » by **The Boshpit!** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:46 pm

KRANG wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I hate to go off-topic in my own thread, but thers no way JJ makes it. That would be a joke if he did.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?topic=756187

uniballer · Post #17 » by **uniballer** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:57 pm

Man i still remeber Joses 1st year in the L.... poor guy couldent hit the broadside of a barn with his shot...

Now he is hitting alot of his looks and abusing defenders when driving to the basket... I really like his game and when TJ comes back i feel sorry for the PG who have to defend them...

TorontoBaller · Post #18 » by **TorontoBaller** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:27 pm

The All Star Game could RUIN Jose's Focus...

dagger · Post #19 » by **dagger** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:28 pm

TorontoBaller wrote:The All Star Game could RUIN Jose's Focus...

I somehow doubt it.

Post #20 » by **LittleOzzy** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:30 pm

TorontoBaller wrote:The All Star Game could RUIN Jose's Focus...

Why would you think that?