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Post your realistic ideas for toronto to become a contender
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:18 pm
by Denisaur9
I think BC has built a solid foundation I think we are a solid defensive, slashing SF(Artest/Maggette) away from contending team.
I think one of our biggest needs is a banger, downlow, someone who can come off the bench get loads of boards. I think this person is Reggie Evans, the guy is an absolute beast, doesnt care about points but does all the dirty work down low, this guy is willing to punch people in the nuts to get a rebound, thats what the Raps need.
So Im thinkin a Kapono+Dixon for Evans and Ollie(expiring)
I think we have enough shooters, I like Kapono shooting ability, but hes not getting alot of time/shots.
Philly gets there Korver replacement and a solid backcourt player in Dixon.
In the Off-season
Draft
If we decide to keep it
20-ish-Bill Walker(Dropping alot becasue of knee surgery, similar to what happen to Granger, could possibly be a High risk High reward type pick)
Signings
I think we should go after a young player with the LLE,CJ Miles anyone? the kid is only 20, has solid range and a good shot, worth a shot imo.
Sign Walter Herrman to a 4 yr/14 Mil contract, this guy is a very underated scorer in this league, very under the radar, he avaraged almost 20 ppg down the stretch for the Bobcats last year.
Re-Sign Calderon to a contract very similar to what TJ Ford got, 4 year/36-40 Mil
Finally Package up Rasho ,Garbajosa and Graham(even S&T Delfino?) and a 1st for a Kirilenko or someone along those lines.
Roster
C-Bargs/Humps
PF-Bosh/Evans
SF-Kirilenko or another top tier SF?Herrman/Walker
SG-Parker/Miles/Walker
PG-Calderon/Ford
I dont think thats to unrealistic, and an improvement over our current squad.
What do you guys think and please post your ideas of getting Toronto to be a contending team.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:39 pm
by Taiyab_K
Bosh to bulk-up, Andrea to see a psychologist. Calderon to play defense, TJ to not have those nights where he scores 20 pts and everyone else is stagnant on offense. And for SAM to get that one Center who wants to rebound.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:40 pm
by 6ixSideSniper
Your asking RealGMers for REALISTIC scenarios? Good luck with that.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:43 pm
by HighOctane
REALISTIC?
I call this the 2 move championship.
Bargs/Humps/Graham for Oden
Moon/Parker/Rasho/PG for Josh Smith, JJ.
We're set!
Oden
Bosh
J-Smoove
JJ
PG
We win the NBA.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:50 pm
by PapeSowish
Just bring Pape back.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:53 pm
by whoknows
HighOctane wrote:REALISTIC?
I call this the 2 move championship.
Bargs/Humps/Graham for Oden
Moon/Parker/Rasho/PG for Josh Smith, JJ.
We're set!
Oden
Bosh
J-Smoove
JJ
PG
We win the NBA.
I thought he said realistic...
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:54 pm
by positivetension
With Bargs and Fords value so low this team doesn't have the value to acquire pieces to become a contender.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:54 pm
by Andiamo
we already are contenders.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:06 pm
by A_wildstabatanything
HighOctane wrote:REALISTIC?
I call this the 2 move championship.
Bargs/Humps/Graham for Oden
Moon/Parker/Rasho/PG for Josh Smith, JJ.
We're set!
Oden
Bosh
J-Smoove
JJ
PG
We win the NBA.
Neither Atlanta or Portland would go for those deals.
I don't have any specific names in mind, but IMO BC needs to translate our expirings into a significant wing player over the summer/before next year's trade deadline. The only other option is to trade into the top 10 of this year's draft if our scouts are sold on one of the top prospects.
I don't want to see any more depth moves. We already know BC can find these type of players... I'm still waiting for him to add a core piece.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:09 pm
by Luv 4 da game
Taiyab_K wrote:Bosh to bulk-up, Andrea to see a psychologist. Calderon to play defense, TJ to not have those nights where he scores 20 pts and everyone else is stagnant on offense. And for SAM to get that one Center who wants to rebound.
The man can't bulk up anymore, he said it himself in the off-season.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:10 pm
by raps4life~
A_wildstabatanything wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Neither Atlanta or Portland would go for those deals.
really? they look pretty damn good to me.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:10 pm
by Uros Slowcar
Easy, this should do it.
1) Convince Dwayne Wade that the raptors are the team for him.
2) Wait for Bargnani to un-Darko
3) Get the right rebounding/banger to backup Bosh and Bargs
4) Get the best veteran ring-chaser to play for vet minimum
Re: Post your realistic ideas for toronto to become a conten
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:12 pm
by galeon110
Denisaur9 wrote:
Roster
C-Bargs/Humps
PF-Bosh/Evans
SF-Kirilenko or another top tier SF?Herrman/Walker
SG-Parker/Miles/Walker
PG-Ford/Calderon
fixed
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:27 pm
by Uros Slowcar
Uros Slowcar wrote:Easy, this should do it.
1) Convince Dwayne Wade that the raptors are the team for him.
2) Wait for Bargnani to un-Darko
3) Get the right rebounding/banger to backup Bosh and Bargs
4) Get the best veteran ring-chaser to play for vet minimum
In reality, the only way this team gets a sniff at an NBA championship is to clear cap space and throw the bank at the best possible SG/SF, and also hope that Bargnani amounts to something. I know a lot of people think that its not possible to obtain another superstar player/salary, but thats what its going to take. Championships are won by teams with multiple stars on their teams, with at least one of them being a top 10 player. Its just the way it is in the NBA.
Posted: Sun Feb 3, 2008 11:45 pm
by omeloon
I think Artest is the biggest impact player we can hope to get our hands on. I'd be hoping to get Artest and Jeff Foster in two seperate trades. The most I'd be willing to give up is any package including Moon, Delfino, Dixon, Humphries, Joey and our 2008 1st.
Basically be left with this
Foster, Bargnani, Rasho
Bosh, Bargnnani, Garbo
Artest, Kapono
Parker
Calderon/Ford
+ Joey or Delfino
Defense and rebounding would actually be really respectable with a starting line-up like that.
Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 12:14 am
by Southward1
-use rasho and one or two of moon/kapono/delfino (sign and trade) this offseason plus first or two to get a great SG/SF on a team that wants to dump or is retooling. (Artest yes Artest, possibly Shawn Marion if the suns are desperate again to unload salaries, maybe )
-resign Jose 5 years /40 mil
-sign a banger this offseason with the MLE
-look at any vets who would sign for the vet minimum who can still contribute
PG: Tj/Jose
SG: Parker/Who is left
SF: New SF/Who is left/Graham
PF: Bosh/Hump
C: Bargs/Banger...
+ Any vet or vets you got
hopefully with the internal development this team can make a charge.
Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:12 am
by TGM
3 things I hope to happen:
1. Show case TJ for two weeks and flip him to Denver while moving Rasho's contract and moving Joey G and Baston , and bring back Linas Kleiza, JR Smith, Eduardo Najera, Chucky atkins (out for the year) and Steven Hunter.
Immediately afterwards
2. Flip Najera, Dixon, JR Smith and 2 future 2nd round picks for Delonte West and Kurt Thomas.
3. Send Parker and Chucky Atkins and our first round pick for Corey Magette (We will still have his Bird Rights)
We would have a playoff ready line-up
Jose Calderon - Delonte West - Derrick Martin
Corey Magette - Carlos Delfino - Jason Kapono
Linas Kleiza - Jamario Moon - Jason Kapono
Chris Bosh - Kurt Thomas - Kris Humphries
Andrea Bargnani - Steven Hunter - Maceo Baston
Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:19 am
by Taiyab_K
Luv 4 da game wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The man can't bulk up anymore, he said it himself in the off-season.
Shape up, or ship out.
Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:24 am
by HighOctane
A_wildstabatanything wrote:Neither Atlanta or Portland would go for those deals.
I thought that perhaps green font wasn't necessary.
I wouldn't even sense a hint of realism from those trades.
Posted: Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:26 am
by The Letter V
Taiyab_K wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Shape up, or ship out.
He agrees:
