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These are not tradable assets because I feel BC won't consider trading any of the following....

Chris Bosh- duh?
Jose Calderon- integral part
Andrea Bargnani- unfortunately BC probably isn't even at least looking into giving up on him.
TJ Ford- if healthy, maybe, due to Calderon's emergence. His injury history gives him little value; he's more valuable to hold onto.
Anthony Parker- I was abit torn on this one? However Parker is the only legit wingman the raptors have. Good defense, leadership, athleticism, efficiency...Great shot!


RANKING OUR TRADABLE ASSETS

I'd be willing to give up any combination of our following assets.....

1) 1st round pick- I don't like giving away picks, especially in a deep draft, but that pick will be in the 20's. Package some garbage with the pick, a player like AK47 would have more of an impact then any prospect we draft in that spot.

2)Jamario Moon- this is on the basis of selling high. Moon has athleticism and potential, plus he's making a name for himself..time to cash in!

3)Jason Kapono- you could make an argument for Kapono at 2. however, I'm quite sure other NBA GM's aren't naive enough to ignore Kapono's horrendous defense(he's like an awkward pylon) and inability to create any offense for himself. Still Kapono might be the deadliest shooting threat in the NBA, teams will be tempted by that.

4)Carlos Delfino- Having a good first year for Toronto, hard nosed defense, intensity off the bench, a bit too inconsistent. very unlikely to be traded, but BC would pull the trigger if Delfino was the difference in any impact acquisition.

5)Rasho Nestorvic- he's contract makes up half his appeal. Can help teams get rid of contracts in any trade. Still a very good interior defender, that's about it.

6)Juan Dixon- veteran spark plug off the bench, undersized 2 who can score.

How is Rasho number five on your list?

The recent Gasol trade underlines how important an expiring, or near expiring, deal is in netting a solid player on a team that is looking to rebuild. No way can Kapono or Delfino net more for us than Rasho in a trade.

I would place Rasho and the first round picks as a tie for number ONE on the list (assuming Bosh, Forderon, Bargs, and Parker are untouchable).

I would put Parker as a tradeable asset for sure. He won't be around when we will be competing for a title. For example, using Parker, Rasho, Dixon (or substitute Moon in there somewhere). It's not straight up in terms of talent, but Utah has to concede on that end because of Kirilenko's monstrous amount/length that escalates over the next 3 years.



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Kirilenko would be our starting 3. Delfino could be our starting 2. The Jazz get Parker plus deals that expire at the end of 09' to clear some good cap space. The Jazz also make a push for the playoffs with a vet in Rasho backing up Okur and a good 2 guard next to Deron Williams. I think it's a win-win for both teams.

To be honest, everyone can be had with a reasonable offer
As for the raptors, the only player I can see that will not be traded if any reasonable deal was offered is Bosh

As for your tradeable asset list, its fair
But it would be hard dealing Jamario Moon, since he's making the minimum, it would be difficult to get equal value back

Not only should Kris Humphries be on your list, I'd say he should be pretty high. He's so young, has a great contract, and has shown flashes of being a good big off the bench. I think he has a fair bit of value.

Further, Anthony Parker is definitely tradeable. I like him too, but I'm sure Colangelo would happily listen to offers for him.

Also, you have Kapono too high. I think Delfino might have more value given Kapono's contract.

Didn't Colangelo say in his Swirsk interview that anybody on the team is tradeable? I doubt he'd trade a PG before the break. He said he'd trade Bargnani if the right trade came along. Parker's tradeable imo if we''re packaging him with someone else and getting a better wing player.

Really Bosh is the only one I think that is safe.

never mind.

1. Bosh (absolutely untouchable, can net us almost anything)
2. Calderon (likely untouchable, great PG, only drawback is being a FA soon)
3. Ford (value is at an extreme low due to injury, but will continue to rise)
3. Bargnani (value is at a low due to struggles, but still the #1 pick)
5. Parker (solid veteran and contract, but is turning 33)
6. Rasho (value will increase next year as contract becomes expiring)
7. Hump (Very young big on a great contract, career energy bench guy)
8. First round pick (likely to be in the late-teens)
9. Moon (low salary makes trade difficult, likely involve more pieces)
10. Delfino (low salary, decent all-around player becoming an RFA soon)
11. Graham (low salary, decent end of rotation guy)
12. Dixon (low expiring contract, decent late rotation guy)
13. Kapono (longer contract on a 1-d player makes for a difficult move)
14. Garbo (value will increase next year as contract becomes expiring)
15. Baston
16. DMart

....Jose's tradable

galeon110 wrote:....Jose's tradable

Not while the man in your sig can't be 100% healthy. Ford's injury locked in Jose's future in Toronto.

1. 1st pick
2. Dixon
3. Delfino
4. Rasho
5. Moon
6. Hump
7. Kapono (the player i would like to see get dealt the most)
Dixon and Delfino are expiring...thats y they're high on the list..everyone on the list could provide good bench depth for a contender...Kapono a 3pt specialist..Moon an athletic wing..Hump a solid back end of the rotation big man...and I think we all know how smart Rasho is and how valuable he is
i forgot graham...he's likely a throw in..low contract, potential?

nivisi9 wrote:Andrea Bargnani- unfortunately BC probably isn't even at least looking into giving up on him.

True Raptor fan here folks.

the 1st round pick will be valuable to rebuilding teams esepcially this year with the draft being so deep

zong wrote:the 1st round pick will be valuable to rebuilding teams esepcially this year with the draft being so deep

Our picks are probably our best assets considering we don't need lottery picks as much anymore to make this team a contender. Teams that are looking to blow themselves up and rebuild with young talent will be looking to acquire these picks, teams like Jersey, Kings, Clippers, and Bucks

Keep in mind the Raptors are not in a position to win a championship any time soon.

1. Andrea Bargnani; Colangelo's 'pet' pretty much no GM who drafts No. 1 overall will admit they made a mistake by trading their pick (will at least hold on for 2-3 seasons)

2. Chris Bosh; an All-Star PF who can dominate most times but can still suck once in a while (esp on D)

3. TJ Ford; put him here because he will not get traded simply because no team will want to take the risk and BC sees potential in him and so will not get fair value.

4. Jose Calderon; I can still see a slight chance for a trade here if a team is willing to give up an All-Star Calibre young swingman or big man (i.e. Maggette, Kirlinko)

5. Anthony Parker; This is the first player on my list I can see getting traded and will supply fans with the shocker. Parker is a greta player for the Raptors and we may be able to get good value for him. Again not saying he SHOULD be traded but with the classic rule of buy low sell high, he is not part of our future plans.

6. Rasho Nest. With the West piling up big men for the playoff push, Rasho can be attractive as he is a decent vet with a semi-good contract that will expire shortly. He can fetch us a good return on someone younger that we can build on.

7. Carlos Delfino. BC can sell players. Despite Deflino being inconsistent, I am sure BC can sell Delfino high base on his strengths, plus he is an expiring contact player. Delfino may or maynot be back next year (2/3 spot players are a dime a dozen). Therefore, if a deal is there, BC may take it.

8. Juan Dixon . Apparently this sharpshooter does have some value around the league.

I am going to treat Bosh, Jose, Bargs as untradeable due to their value to the team, and TJ as virtually untradeable due to injury history and large contract. I'm also not going to count any player twice (i.e. as an expiring deal, and as a valuable player, such as AP). With that in mind:

1. Expiring deals - at the end of next season, Rasho, AP, Garbo and Baston expire for a combined $19 mil. Huge value there, especially if we are willing to pay luxury tax.
2. 2008 1st
3. Delfino - young, versatile player
4. Hump - would look decent on a team really lacking in PFs (Bulls?)
5. Kapono - good shooter, bad contract

ponder276 wrote:I am going to treat Bosh, Jose, Bargs as untradeable due to their value to the team, and TJ as virtually untradeable due to injury history and large contract. I'm also not going to count any player twice (i.e. as an expiring deal, and as a valuable player, such as AP). With that in mind:

1. Expiring deals - at the end of next season, Rasho, AP, Garbo and Baston expire for a combined $19 mil. Huge value there, especially if we are willing to pay luxury tax.

I think this is why we wont see any big moves this year... but next year BC will make his move/s towards shaping a contender.

We will have loads of expiring contracts, we will have our prospect from the 08 draft, we will have a draft pick for the '09 draft.

IMO, with a package of assets like this we should be able to get a star and a very good rotational player next season. If we can leverage our assets next year and resign Jose and Carlos this off-season we would be serious contenders.

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I think this is why we wont see any big moves this year... but next year BC will make his move/s towards shaping a contender.

We will have loads of expiring contracts, we will have our prospect from the 08 draft, we will have a draft pick for the '09 draft.

IMO, with a package of assets like this we should be able to get a star and a very good rotational player next season. If we can leverage our assets next year and resign Jose and Carlos this off-season we would be serious contenders.

I agree 100%. We do not have the assets to make a big move this year, but we can definitely make big moves next year.

nivisi9 wrote:Andrea Bargnani- unfortunately BC probably isn't even at least looking into giving up on him.

So I guess you've been away for the last few weeks while Barg's using the language of basketball has more or less told his detractors to shut the hell up...

ponder276 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


I agree 100%. We do not have the assets to make a big move this year, but we can definitely make big moves next year.

Add in a year's experience for our core and hopefully some good playoff experience too. Should be an exciting year for us.