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wow i just checked that on yahoo and i cannot believe jose leads us in 4 categories, the guy is really becoming a great pg in this league
Scoring Chris Bosh 22.8
Rebounds Chris Bosh 9.2
Assists Jose Calderon 8.8
FG% Jose Calderon 52.9
FT% Jose Calderon 91.7
3PT% Jason Kapono 51.0
Blocks Jamario Moon 1.4
Steals Jose Calderon 1.1
Scoring Chris Bosh 22.8
Rebounds Chris Bosh 9.2
Assists Jose Calderon 8.8
FG% Jose Calderon 52.9
FT% Jose Calderon 91.7
3PT% Jason Kapono 51.0
Blocks Jamario Moon 1.4
Steals Jose Calderon 1.1
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AB_21 wrote:No shockers. I'd like Bosh to get over that 10 rebound hump. Jose's good. Forderon is ridiculous!
Bargs and moon are stealing bosh's rebounds. I say trade'em, just so bosh can be back above 10boards per game. In fact, trade the entire roster for a bunch of midgets so he can average 20 boards a game, I think half of the board would be happy with that.

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SomewhatDamaged wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Bargs and moon are stealing bosh's rebounds. I say trade'em, just so bosh can be back above 10boards per game. In fact, trade the entire roster for a bunch of midgets so he can average 20 boards a game, I think half of the board would be happy with that.
Bargs and moon aren't stealing Bosh's boards....the whole team needs to start grabbing more boards...everytime I watch a game..the raps are always down on boards.
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SomewhatDamaged wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Bargs and moon are stealing bosh's rebounds. I say trade'em, just so bosh can be back above 10boards per game. In fact, trade the entire roster for a bunch of midgets so he can average 20 boards a game, I think half of the board would be happy with that.
You have officially reached contender status. All you need to do is get yourself banned so you can make new accounts and troll some more.
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RomaniaLuvTR wrote:wow i just checked that on yahoo and i cannot believe jose leads us in 4 categories, the guy is really becoming a great pg in this league
Scoring Chris Bosh 22.8
Rebounds Chris Bosh 9.2
Assists Jose Calderon 8.8
FG% Jose Calderon 52.9
FT% Jose Calderon 91.7
3PT% Jason Kapono 51.0
Blocks Jamario Moon 1.4
Steals Jose Calderon 1.1
Not to spark an argument, but T.J. Ford is actually averaging 1.2 steals despite his limited minutes screwing up his averages. I guess he hasn't played enough games to qualify?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3711

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You have officially reached contender status. All you need to do is get yourself banned so you can make new accounts and troll some more.
the difference is idk if contender was being sarcastic. and if i recall, weren't you one of the bargs bashers when he was struggling?
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Rhettmatic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Not to spark an argument, but T.J. Ford is actually averaging 1.2 steals despite his limited minutes screwing up his averages. I guess he hasn't played enough games to qualify?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3711
lol.. sad...

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rickz187 wrote:Jose has done amazing things this year, and I hope he improves. It would be great if he beats Kapono for 3pt% and it looks like Bosh will average not more than 9 boards per game

Lets try and keep the man love on the DL here. Yikes. Jose has done a great job with his jumper this year, but it seems like a bit much to think he'll just kind of casually hop over the 50% from three line.
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Fenris-77 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
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Lets try and keep the man love on the DL here. Yikes. Jose has done a great job with his jumper this year, but it seems like a bit much to think he'll just kind of casually hop over the 50% from three line.
I know your simply gonna ignore this post and attack me rather then respond simply because you don't really have much respect for Raptor fans whose favorite player is Jose Calderon.
But if you look at the steady increase in his 3 pt % during this year. I would say that reaching 50% would not be out of the question.
Wasn't he shooting under 35% at the beginning of the year, wasn't he at 40% 1 and a half months ago and isn't he over 45% now and looking increasingly confident with his shot.
Just except the fact that this guy has become much better then you expected, I believe you were one of those who believed he would be an above average backup. If you take off the blinders it's hard to argue that he is not a top 10 PG RIGHT now and becoming better every game.
Sure I wear blinders as well, but it seems my blinders are backed up by many team resutls and individual statistics. It's hard to argue against both because the results have been great and the stats are out of this world. And even the bad mouthing against his defense seems to have disappeared lately.
Just accept the fact that he is one of the best PG's in the league, it should be easy if you are a Raptor fan.
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Come on guys, let's not make this another TJ vs. Calderon. Both are playing amazingly well, so there's no need for this crap.
Now, I don't know if you know this or not, but Jose right now is the 7th most efficient scorer in the ENTIRE NBA.
True Shooting Percentage (takes into account 3pt and FT)
1. Andrew Bynum - 65.90%
2. Amare Stoudemire - 64.80%
3. Josh Childress - 64.40%
4. Erick Dampier - 64.20%
5. Steve Nash - 63.80%
6. Andris Biedrins - 63.40%
7. Jose Calderon - 62.90%
8. Mike Miller - 62.80%
9. Dwight Howard - 62.60%
10. Chauncey Billups - 62.50%
Now, I don't know if you know this or not, but Jose right now is the 7th most efficient scorer in the ENTIRE NBA.
True Shooting Percentage (takes into account 3pt and FT)
1. Andrew Bynum - 65.90%
2. Amare Stoudemire - 64.80%
3. Josh Childress - 64.40%
4. Erick Dampier - 64.20%
5. Steve Nash - 63.80%
6. Andris Biedrins - 63.40%
7. Jose Calderon - 62.90%
8. Mike Miller - 62.80%
9. Dwight Howard - 62.60%
10. Chauncey Billups - 62.50%
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supernautt wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I know your simply gonna ignore this post and attack me rather then respond simply because you don't really have much respect for Raptor fans whose favorite player is Jose Calderon.
But if you look at the steady increase in his 3 pt % during this year. I would say that reaching 50% would not be out of the question.
Wasn't he shooting under 35% at the beginning of the year, wasn't he at 40% 1 and a half months ago and isn't he over 45% now and looking increasingly confident with his shot.
So because a stat has gotten better it will naturally continue doing so? That's just shoddy thinking. There are a couple of guys that shoot over 50% from three, and my saying that Jose isn't likely to add to their ranks has nothing to do with thinking he's a bad shooter, or any of the other riduculous things I'm sure you're going to accuse me of. If you like I can PM you a couple of candid suggestions about where you can stick those wild accusations too ... Especially when what I actually said was "Jose has done a great job with his jumper this year". That seems positive to me.
Feel free to be happy that he's shooting as well as he is, rather than making wild predictions about how he's going to be the best three point guy in the NBA (or close too it, as is anyone that shoots over 50% on a decent number of attempts). Even the best three point guys hardly ever shoot .500 or better on a season, and there's nothing wrong with Calderone's current 0.461 - that's a wild number for a PG and everyone should be ecstatic about it. Right now though, Kapono is the only guy shooting .500 on significant attempts, and Jose isn't likely to join him. If he does I'll happily add a congratulaory post on the Jose shoots 50% from three thread.
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Fenris-77 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
So because a stat has gotten better it will naturally continue doing so? That's just shoddy thinking. There are a couple of guys that shoot over 50% from three, and my saying that Jose isn't likely to add to their ranks has nothing to do with thinking he's a bad shooter, or any of the other riduculous things I'm sure you're going to accuse me of. If you like I can PM you a couple of candid suggestions about where you can stick those wild accusations too ... Especially when what I actually said was "Jose has done a great job with his jumper this year". That seems positive to me.
Feel free to be happy that he's shooting as well as he is, rather than making wild predictions about how he's going to be the best three point guy in the NBA (or close too it, as is anyone that shoots over 50% on a decent number of attempts). Even the best three point guys hardly ever shoot .500 or better on a season, and there's nothing wrong with Calderone's current 0.461 - that's a wild number for a PG and everyone should be ecstatic about it. Right now though, Kapono is the only guy shooting .500 on significant attempts, and Jose isn't likely to join him. If he does I'll happily add a congratulaory post on the Jose shoots 50% from three thread.
Well, lets put things into perspective shall we?
You say Kapono is the only significant guy shooting 50 percent from 3, no argument there. The guy is dead eye.
However, as far as 3 pt attemtps are concerned, Jose has a lot more 3 pt-shot attempts then Jason this year, maybe Jason's percentage might slip a bit if he shot more 3's. But who's to say that? Maybe it might actually increase if he shot more.
BUT your comparison with Kapono is not a good one. One guy is just a one-dimensional shooter while the other is a PG, has a very good midrage game as well and does create his own shot from time to time. So a catch and shoot shooter is supposed to be a good shooter, and in the case of Kapono, he better shoot 50% for all the cash he is getting. However, speaking strictly in terms of percentages, Kapono was not a 50% guy in his first 3-4 seasons (going as low as 39% during one season) so who could have predicted that he would become a 50% shooter. So, if Kapono can do it, then Jose can do so too. Therefore, no need to blast another member for predicting or hoping that Jose will get there as well. Jose's shooting 6% from the 3 in February, so who knows, maybe he will end up with 50% on the year.
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Duncanfan wrote:Well, lets put things into perspective shall we?
I do love prespective. Let's shall, shall we?
Duncanfan wrote:You say Kapono is the only significant guy shooting 50 percent from 3, no argument there. The guy is dead eye.
However, as far as 3 pt attemtps are concerned, Jose has a lot more 3 pt-shot attempts then Jason this year, maybe Jason's percentage might slip a bit if he shot more 3's. But who's to say that? Maybe it might actually increase if he shot more.
Well, since Jason also shot over .500 the year before as well I'd say it's more of a trend than a statistical anomaly.
Oh dear, perspective right out the window I see. Kapono is the only shooter, amongst the dozens employed by NBA teams, who's actually shooting over .500 just now, so I do hope you're not serious about that being a job requirement. I should also point out that Kapono's midrange game is fully as good as his three point game, evidenced by his .500 from the floor this season and .494 from the floor last season.Duncanfan wrote:BUT your comparison with Kapono is not a good one. One guy is just a one-dimensional shooter while the other is a PG, has a very good midrage game as well and does create his own shot from time to time. So a catch and shoot shooter is supposed to be a good shooter, and in the case of Kapono, he better shoot 50% for all the cash he is getting.
And, lest we slip entirely into the realm of fantasy, let's not talk about Jose creating his own shot shall we? Calderon is a wonder coming off screens, either to shoot or drive, but he couldn't create his own shot with a set of detailed instructions. (Sarcastic? Yes, but also mostly true)
Ah, I was wondering when someone would bring this up. Perhaps you're unaware just how rare it is for a player to shoot over .500 from three on an entire season? Kapono is the only guy doing it this year. Last year there was only one player who managed it - you guessed it, Kapono. In 05-06 no one managed it except for a couple of guys (Dickau and Green) who only had 20 attempts. In 04-05 there was also no one who managed it. In fact, to get to the last player, before Kapono, who led the league in 3pt percentage, and was over .500, we have to go all the way back to the 95-96 season when Tim Legler shot an astonishing .522. Furthermore, the only yearly leader other than Kapono and Legler to ever shoot .500 from three is Steve Kerr in 94-95. Even if we include everyone, not just season leaders, we're talking about exactly 5 players who've ever shot .500 from three for a season.Duncanfan wrote:However, speaking strictly in terms of percentages, Kapono was not a 50% guy in his first 3-4 seasons (going as low as 39% during one season) so who could have predicted that he would become a 50% shooter. So, if Kapono can do it, then Jose can do so too. Therefore, no need to blast another member for predicting or hoping that Jose will get there as well. Jose's shooting 6% from the 3 in February, so who knows, maybe he will end up with 50% on the year.
So, when we're talking about exactly 5 players in the history of the NBA you can see why I might confess to some doubts about Calderone's ability to accomplish the same thing? (Those players, for the record, are Kapono, Kerr, Legler, Detlef Schrempf, and John Sundvold)basketball-reference
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I doubt Calderon's percentage will rise above 50 per cent this season, but I suppose it is possible with the way he's been shooting lately.
However, I think both he and Kapono would be more effective if they took more shots, even if it caused those superhuman percentages to dip a bit.
However, I think both he and Kapono would be more effective if they took more shots, even if it caused those superhuman percentages to dip a bit.

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