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Are Calderon's shot mechanics normal?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:07 pm
by supersub15
I haven't played organized basketball before nor ever been coached to play basketball, so I don't really know. But, looking at his shot mechanics, it looks a little funky, as he heaves it from almost his chest, just like Childress (except less funky).
To those who played organized basketball, is that a normal shot, how is it so consistent?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:14 pm
by sh00n
It's normal. Maybe the way he brings it up looks a little different, but the release on it's own is a thing of beauty.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:15 pm
by alpha
It's more Jim Furyk than Shawn Marion
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:20 pm
by RingItUp!
alpha wrote:It's more Jim Furyk than Shawn Marion
uhhh...
I would make the comparison somewhat differently.
Shawn Marion : Jim Furyk :: Jose Calderon : Fred Couples
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:45 pm
by The_Hater
The most important part of a jump shot is probably the follow through and with that aspect, Jose has perfect mechanics.
But other than that it's far from the prettiest jumpshot out there.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:49 pm
by azorian
it sort of resembles my own but he seems to make buckets seemingly easy. It's amazing to the point where in his first year I would cringe the same way I would when I see Kris Humphries take a jump shot.
I'm not sure what happened maybe it's confidence, maybe it was Hoopla (sp?) or maybe he just took the time to practice his outside shot but regardless it is amazing to watch. The moment it rolls off his fingers you can tell it's pretty automatic just like bargs shot when he is on.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:51 pm
by Korr
it's so ugly yet so beautiful
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:57 pm
by dagger
azorian wrote:
I'm not sure what happened maybe it's confidence, maybe it was Hoopla (sp?) or maybe he just took the time to practice his outside shot but regardless it is amazing to watch. The moment it rolls off his fingers you can tell it's pretty automatic just like bargs shot when he is on.
Jay Triano has worked an awful lot with Jose, and is the Raptors' de facto shooting specialist. He's worked with Bosh, changing his approach ever so slightly, and he's worked with Bargnani, especially during the slump, to get him re-started. Now if only he could get Delfino to be more selective...
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:58 pm
by cdel00
The_Hater wrote:The most important part of a jump shot is probably the follow through and with that aspect, Jose has perfect mechanics.
But other than that it's far from the prettiest jumpshot out there.
I always thought the most important part of a jump shot was the ball going through the rim
Seriousy though AP's J is very pretty.
Jose has very good body mechanics in his shot when he launches his shot in rhythm.
The legs are the power source of the shot, the hands positioning on the ball and the follow through dictate how the ball will spin and whether the ball will drift to the side is mainly determined by body english (ie. if a player is moving to the side when shooting the side momentum is transfered to the ball).
Kapono is just a freak how half his shots go in simply amaze me, like that 3 point volley shot just wow.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:00 pm
by RingItUp!
dagger wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Jay Triano has worked an awful lot with Jose, and is the Raptors' de facto shooting specialist. He's worked with Bosh, changing his approach ever so slightly, and he's worked with Bargnani, especially during the slump, to get him re-started. Now if only he could get Delfino to be more selective...
Yeah. How can you coach selection mechanics?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:02 pm
by The_Hater
Calderon was actually considered a pretty good shooter back in Europe and internationally. But as a NBA rookie, he started the year shooting poorly and never seemed to get his confidence back after that.
So while he has improved over the past 2 years, he wasn't nearly as bad a shooter as the results showed during his rookie season.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:07 pm
by Hendrix
Seems like he shoots it from his chest kind of like Barbosa, but not 2 handed.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:08 pm
by cdel00
Good background knowledge on the shot:
http://www.guidetocoachingbasketball.com/shooting.htm
Since most of this practice sessions are alone, every player must be his own critic. This means he\she must understand the proper mechanics that affect the success, or failure, of every shot.
Every player must know his range and know what is a good shot. Therefore, before examining the techniques associated with the various shots, a good basketball player is expected to have in his arsenal, here are the principles at work in every scoring shot from anywhere on a basketball court. These are divided into two parts, the mental aspect and the physical aspect:
1. Mental. At no time is psychological conditioning more critical than when shooting the basketball in a game. Knowing when to shoot and being able to do it effectively under pressure distinguishes the great shooter from the ordinary.
Regardless of how much he practices, or how well he conditions himself, only a modest amount of improvement is possible in speed, reflexes, or strength. History gives many examples of players able to achieve greatness despite mediocre physical talent. Usually, however, such successes are due to determination.
1. Concentration: is the fixing of attention on the job at hand and is characteristic of every great athlete. Through continuous practice, good shooters develop their concentration to the extent that they are oblivious to every distraction.
Ability to relax: is closely related to concentration. You often hear great shooters have "ice water in their veins".
Watch a good foul shooter as he approaches the foul line. They usually begin the ritual of adjusting the feet and bouncing the ball (nearly always a set number of times). As his/her eyes open wide in sighting the basket, the concentration is so intense, there is little wonder that he/she is undisturbed by the crowd or game pressures.
2. Confidence: That is a "gut certainty" the ball will drop through the basket without touching metal.
Although, a good shooter never takes a shot that he/she is not confident he/she will make, they often miss. Therefore, the probability of making any given shot is somewhat less than 100% that his/her confidence leads one to expect. Clearly, then, when we say, "Don
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:34 pm
by onions17
Looks pretty normal to me. Any jumpshot works really if you put the time into it, it shouldn't have to be reconstructed. As long as it is effective off the dribble, and in traffic. (not shawn marion). And his shot is constistent (same form every time) so you can tell that he has put the work in.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:43 pm
by KingOfTheCourt
His shot is a little funky and sometimes it looks like he isnt shooting from as high up as he can. It almost looks like his shot is going to get blocked or deflected but it goes in so what can I say. I remember when I was young the coach telling me to keep those elbows in all the way but both AP and Jose seem to start with them out but as the shot goes up they bring them in which seems to give that funky look to it. Other than that, the stroke is just a thing a beauty.
