Schadenfreude wrote:
In terms of pure talent, Charlie is easily in the upper-third of all NBA players. I'm not saying that he could be the second coming of Shawn Kemp, just that the guy has more
There is NO WAY CV is upper-third of all NBA players. I love CV but when half your game can't pass as average then I'm sorry but that is just wrong. I think CV is in the top half in terms of pure talent but just in terms of flipping through starting line-ups I don't know how you could justify top third.
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As far as earning his starting gig with the Raps, January was actually one of his worst months...he was named starter Feb. 3. Why? Largely because his competition was Pape Sow and Loren Woods. He celebrated by having a great month that had me frothing at the mouth, then coasted through most of March.
Historically rebounding was known as a hustle stat and since CV had his best rebounding month in March I would say he brought it at a reasonable level if you compare it to the rest of his rookie season. Sure his shats weren't falling but his blocks, steals, assists, and defensive rebounding were all peaks for the season.
February was a good scoring month for CV but March seemed to be the better overall month for him aside from shooting.
He hits the glass, no question about it. However, his defense isn't one iota better as far as I can tell, and if improvement has occurred, Bucks fans have certainly missed it.
It is an ugly situation in Buckland and as I have stated CV's defence is his weakness and thus will receive the most amount of hate from disgruntled fans. Yes, the same defence that keeps me from putting CV in the top third in terms of talent.
Again, Bargs' numbers are irrelevant; I didn't bring him up with any intention of discussing their relative games (my feelings about Bargs are fairly well known), rather only because of the parallels in fan reactions. The point was simply that neither player is remotely approaching expectations...Bucks fans are eager to dump Charlie in the off-season (even though many seem to doubt whether Yi will amount to much), and Raps fans are at a loss concerning Bargs.
I simply do not find the excuses made for either player to be valid; despite the talk of promises, Yi's minutes fluctuated on the basis of production, as well. Had his backup decided to take his sixth man role as a challenge, there were minutes to be had...either a starting job or a larger role off the bench. Instead, Yi flat-out outplayed him for the first two months. Same with Bargs; when he was moved to the bench it was incumbent upon him to prove that it was a mistake, and force his way into the starting lineup.
That's the only parallel that I was trying to draw...fans of both players can claim that they were slighted, but neither player stepped up and proved them right. As a result, we're left with nothing but what-ifs and dream scenarios.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think Bargnani has had more continuity and more support than CV has been given over the course of his career. Given the fairly large discrepancy between their performance I think CV has made the most of his situation and will utimately have the better career.
The fact of the matter remains CV is starting and putting up solid minutes. The team is losing but I don't hold that against CV, Bogut or even Redd because there are some glaring issues that are present. All of those guys should be held accountable but I think they are battling through legit problems that need to be rectified in order for that franchise to move forward.
Edit: Just so it is clear I'm not refruting his lack of drive and motivation but that doesn't dismiss the fact he hasn't had legit challenges.