Sherm: O'Neal still not in game shape

Dennis P · Post #21 » by **Dennis P** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:25 pm

dacrusha wrote:And so it begins: the Bargnani-style excuses start before the first tip-off has even taken place.

+1

Hypz · Post #22 » by **Hypz** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:33 pm

elmer_yuck wrote:He's been telling us he's in great shape for months.
He's been working out all summer.
He's been in training camp for a month.
He's played 8 exhibition games.
And yet he's not in game shape?
Hmmmm, something doesn't smell too good.

May I recommend Fabreeze?

Bringbackoakley · Post #23 » by **Bringbackoakley** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:43 pm

08HEMI wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:He's been telling us he's in great shape for months.
He's been working out all summer.
He's been in training camp for a month.
He's played 8 exhibition games.
And yet he's not in game shape?
Hmmmm, something doesn't smell too good.

Look you could go work out for 6 months and look like arnold but that doesnt neccessarly translate into you being in the shape you need to be in to play a sport like basketball or hockey. I have worked out my entire life but stopped playing sports for a while now, just the other day I went on the court to shoot some hoops and I nearly fell over dead in 10 minutes.

JO hasnt played much competitive basketball lately, there is a difference and it doesnt mean he is out of shape or didnt care.

He played the end of the season last year. He was playing competitive in Vegas, he came to training camp and played in the preseason games. He lost 20 pounds in the off-season, he says his knees are finally strong again. It's not like he has been sitting on his @ss all summer, I hope he is in atleast decent shape.

And no you could no go work out for 6 months and look like arnold....well now maybe

MadDogSHWA · Post #24 » by **MadDogSHWA** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:43 pm

Dub_P wrote:Random question but I'll throw her out there anyways. Would any of you say it is harder to get into game shape for the NBA then to get into fighting shape for the UFC?

Comparing 20-30 minutes in the NBA to 3 x 5 minute rounds in the UFC.

It's hard to compare. Pro fighters start about 16 weeks before a fight and have their conditioning peak the week of the fight. Then take 1-2 weeks off. NBA players have to sustain it for much longer.

gerrit4 · Post #25 » by **gerrit4** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:59 pm

08HEMI wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:He's been telling us he's in great shape for months.
He's been working out all summer.
He's been in training camp for a month.
He's played 8 exhibition games.
And yet he's not in game shape?
Hmmmm, something doesn't smell too good.

Look you could go work out for 6 months and look like arnold but that doesnt neccessarly translate into you being in the shape you need to be in to play a sport like basketball or hockey. I have worked out my entire life but stopped playing sports for a while now, just the other day I went on the court to shoot some hoops and I nearly fell over dead in 10 minutes.

JO hasnt played much competitive basketball lately, there is a difference and it doesnt mean he is out of shape or didnt care.

Exactly. Game shape - actually playing real games, is different than being fit and muscular.

snapcracklepape · Post #26 » by **snapcracklepape** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:04 pm

Bill Simmons was Right!?!?

J Dilla · Post #27 » by **J Dilla** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:11 pm

Cleveland probably said no to JO.

Ted Lasso · Post #28 » by **Ted Lasso** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:15 pm

J Dilla wrote:Cleveland probably said no to JO.

Not at all true, but loving the pessimism an hour before the season starts! :lol:

Buyaka · Post #29 » by **Buyaka** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:01 pm

Cuervo2Bosh wrote:wtf does sherm know...
i cant stand listening to this ugly cueball, his voice makes me quiver
JO will be fine, dont worry folks

Hmm. Why don't you tell us how you really feel...

Kush · Post #30 » by **Kush** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:20 pm

So far Jeromian O'neal looks better than expected..

Post #31 » by **LittleOzzy** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:21 pm

If he's not yet in game shape then I am excited because he is playing great.

Bringbackoakley · Post #32 » by **Bringbackoakley** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:31 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:If he's not yet in game shape then I am excited because he is playing great.

Start of the second half, he is looking like he is running out of gas, with an early sub bringing Bargo on the court. No worries though, its a long season.

[SJJ] · Post #33 » by **[SJJ]** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:41 am

Man, if he really isnt, i cant wait to see when he is...

JJWong17 · Post #34 » by **JJWong17** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:50 am

Bringbackoakley wrote:
LittleOzzy wrote:If he's not yet in game shape then I am excited because he is playing great.

Start of the second half, he is looking like he is running out of gas, with an early sub bringing Bargo on the court. No worries though, its a long season.

Yeah you can see he's not 100% yet. He started meh then ramped it up then seemed to get tired and ended up taking a lot of turn around jumpers in the post. Encouraging. And damn, having 2 long, athletic guys in the paint on defence is fun to watch. Too bad they seem a bit confused about getting the rebounds though.

gp2015 · Post #35 » by **gp2015** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:05 am

JJWong17 wrote:
Bringbackoakley wrote:
LittleOzzy wrote:If he's not yet in game shape then I am excited because he is playing great.

Start of the second half, he is looking like he is running out of gas, with an early sub bringing Bargo on the court. No worries though, its a long season.

Yeah you can see he's not 100% yet. He started meh then ramped it up then seemed to get tired and ended up taking a lot of turn around jumpers in the post. Encouraging. And damn, having 2 long, athletic guys in the paint on defence is fun to watch. Too bad they seem a bit confused about getting the rebounds though.

Both of them were pretty busy challenging shots. The other guys didn't really help them out with rebounds.

raps4eva · Post #36 » by **raps4eva** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:22 am

he looked pretty good after that slam and you have to realize his body is not used to heavy minutes yet cuz he has hardly played give him time

Fairview4Life · Post #37 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:24 am

Bringbackoakley wrote:
LittleOzzy wrote:If he's not yet in game shape then I am excited because he is playing great.

Start of the second half, he is looking like he is running out of gas, with an early sub bringing Bargo on the court. No worries though, its a long season.

He was taken out early because he was poked in the eye by Dalembert. Then the Comcast people down here mentioned he was stretching out his right hamstring in the tunnel, but insisted on coming back in. At which point he was very good.

I don't know where your idea that he was gassed was coming from, but he didn't look gassed at all to me. It was also certainly not the reason he left the game early at the beginning of the 2nd half.

Post #38 » by **Alfred** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:35 am

ESPN online mentioned that O'Neal wasn't in game shape either.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2008/news/story?page=Atlantic-081028

bananaman · Post #39 » by **bananaman** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:49 am

Alfred wrote:ESPN online mentioned that O'Neal wasn't in game shape either.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2008/news/story?page=Atlantic-081028

Lol that was tricky 8-)

J-Roc · Post #40 » by **J-Roc** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:37 pm

JO isn't as fast as he used to be when people compared CB to him. But...poor Theo Ratliff. Remember when people were discussing trading for him to be our C? Now Theo gets a hand when he gets re-introduced to the Philly crowd.

But then JO looks at Ratliff and basically laughs when he blows by for that dunk. JO might be a bit older and slower, but he's not going to be stopped by bench players.