Gerald Wallace on the block (trade imminent?)
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Another PF just what the team needs
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Just for cap reasons alone I would say no. I liked the idea of trying to get Al Harrington much better.
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Rhettmatic wrote:Doug Smith says he would have more interest in Al Harrington.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Fairview4Life wrote:Rhettmatic wrote:Doug Smith says he would have more interest in Al Harrington.
Hah -- fair enough, but for the most part Smith just regurgitates stuff he hears from people around the team. Given the way he revels in dismissing any trade speculation, I would bet there's a bit of validity to the Raptors' potential interest in AH.
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dagger is totally right about the financial considerations in charlotte. this is similar to memphis and the situation they faced with pau gasol. basically, a struggling market unloading an expensive player who simply wasn't helping them win. raps can do this. bobcats can't expect much in return. as long as you don't trade both parker and moon -- along with bargs -- you still have a decent bench. if you can get felton as well and give up someone like kapono -- you're still good. a bench with any 3 of
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(felton) is solid enough compared to teams like the lakers and the celtics.
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(felton) is solid enough compared to teams like the lakers and the celtics.
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I don't know if Wallace would be the best fit for this team with the current makeup of it.
Wallace doesns't really give us much of a wing that can create for himself, or others. He gets a lot of his points cutting down low, which is kinda where we need space for Bosh, and J.O to operate. Defensivly I'de prefer someone with a little more man to man defense then help defense I think. Plus the injury scares me with his current deal.
I'de take him if the right deal came along obiously, but I'm not sure if what we'de have to give up to get him would necisarily bring back as much as we'de want in a SF.
Wallace doesns't really give us much of a wing that can create for himself, or others. He gets a lot of his points cutting down low, which is kinda where we need space for Bosh, and J.O to operate. Defensivly I'de prefer someone with a little more man to man defense then help defense I think. Plus the injury scares me with his current deal.
I'de take him if the right deal came along obiously, but I'm not sure if what we'de have to give up to get him would necisarily bring back as much as we'de want in a SF.
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OK here's a trade that fleeces Denver
Wallace and Kapono to Denver OR Wallace and Bargs to Denver
Bargs and Parker to Charlotte OR Parker and Kapono to Charlotte
May, Balkman and Melo to Toronto
Hey a guy can dream
Wallace and Kapono to Denver OR Wallace and Bargs to Denver
Bargs and Parker to Charlotte OR Parker and Kapono to Charlotte
May, Balkman and Melo to Toronto
Hey a guy can dream
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cdel00 wrote:OK here's a trade that fleeces Denver
Wallace and Kapono to Denver OR Wallace and Bargs to Denver
Bargs and Parker to Charlotte OR Parker and Kapono to Charlotte
May, Balkman and Melo to Toronto
Hey a guy can cream
Fixed.
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Here's another possibility
Wallace to Detroit
Bargs and Kapono to Charlotte
Prince to Toronto
Wallace to Detroit
Bargs and Kapono to Charlotte
Prince to Toronto
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People are seriously underrating the value of Andrea Bargnani around here. Yes he had a bad second year but he still has a ton of potential and he still has value around the NBA. I would actually argue that Bargnani has more trade value than Gerald Wallace right now. If salaries were even between the two, you guys wouldn't think the Bobcats would be all over a Wallace/Bargnani swap? Of course they would. They would be able to move Bargnani to his natural position at the 4 and put him next to good defensive player in Okafor. I wouldn't trade Bargnani in a package for Wallace unless the Bobcats sweetened the pot. Wallace is a very good player but he isn't a franchise player, he's a great 3rd option, and he has a history of injury problems worse than JO or Ford.
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_venom_ wrote:People are seriously underrating the value of Andrea Bargnani around here. Yes he had a bad second year but he still has a ton of potential and he still has value around the NBA. I would actually argue that Bargnani has more trade value than Gerald Wallace right now. If salaries were even between the two, you guys wouldn't think the Bobcats would be all over a Wallace/Bargnani swap? Of course they would. They would be able to move Bargnani to his natural position at the 4 and put him next to good defensive player in Okafor. I wouldn't trade Bargnani in a package for Wallace unless the Bobcats sweetened the pot. Wallace is a very good player but he isn't a franchise player, he's a great 3rd option, and he has a history of injury problems worse than JO or Ford.
Agreed
Just look at what Milwaukee did with Yi. If Yi can land a team richard jefferson Bargnani certainly could have. Gerald Wallace is a nice player and all, but he has no experience in the playoffs, is extremely injury prone and really isn't that perimeter defender this team needs. The raptors should wait for something better if they are thinking of trading bargnani
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Why would anyone trade for fat ass Curry, man Bargnani is way better rebounder and player than Curry...why not Bargnani.
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Gerald Wallace could possibly be attained without giving up Bargnani. Throw in a pick and decent players like AP or Kapono, and it is plausible.
If the Raptors give up Andrea, I would expect nothing less than JRich. The more I attempt to think about Bargnani from perspectives of BC and other GMs, the more value he seems to have.
If the Raptors give up Andrea, I would expect nothing less than JRich. The more I attempt to think about Bargnani from perspectives of BC and other GMs, the more value he seems to have.
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Parasight wrote:The Bobcats have apparently talked about Wallace's long-term value to the franchise (he signed a six-year, $57 million extension in July of 2007) and decided that they would be better suited allocating such a significant salary to somebody else.
If Jordan wants no part of that, what makes you think BC would...
Since when has Michael Jordan had a great eye for talent?
Greatest of all time, no question. But not for managing a team.
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sh00n wrote:Parasight wrote:The Bobcats have apparently talked about Wallace's long-term value to the franchise (he signed a six-year, $57 million extension in July of 2007) and decided that they would be better suited allocating such a significant salary to somebody else.
If Jordan wants no part of that, what makes you think BC would...
Since when has Michael Jordan had a great eye for talent?
Greatest of all time, no question. But not for managing a team.
Rip Hamilton was a good selection. I wouldn't say he is a dummy I think its more along the lines of he doesn't put the same effort into the teams he runs as he did when he played. He spends more time gambling and golfing than he does worrying about the Bobcats.
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And I dunno what's up with these greats coming back with **** teams. Wayne Gretzky is in the most irrelevent hockey place ever the Coyotes, and out of all the teams Jordan went to the Wizards and Bobcats.
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J Dilla wrote:And I dunno what's up with these greats coming back with **** teams. Wayne Gretzky is in the most irrelevent hockey place ever the Coyotes, and out of all the teams Jordan went to the Wizards and Bobcats.
Bobcats = Charlotte = North Carolina.
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RaptorsBoy wrote:If we have the extra cap space, who do you think that toronto can grab to have with cb and jose?
Anthony Parker, Jorge Garbajosa and Fred Jones.
With the injury issues of GW, I can certainly see why you do not want to trade for him in a deal to use up that cap space.
But I am certainly not against the idea of getting the third core piece of the team via trade, as another team tries to change its core for 2010 Free Agency, and dumps a contract.
Let's be honest here... this is still Toronto. Do you really want to see how we do against alot of competition in the FA market.
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Here's one I would love to see
TOR gets Tayshaun Prince & Raja Bell (among the best defensive wings in the game)
DET gets Gerrald Wallace (complete the Roster shake up)
PHX gets Jason Kapono (Kapono reunited with Shaq, imagine Nash feeding Kapono)
CHA gets Andrea Bargnani & Joey Graham (Bargs and Oak are made for each other)
TOR gets Tayshaun Prince & Raja Bell (among the best defensive wings in the game)
DET gets Gerrald Wallace (complete the Roster shake up)
PHX gets Jason Kapono (Kapono reunited with Shaq, imagine Nash feeding Kapono)
CHA gets Andrea Bargnani & Joey Graham (Bargs and Oak are made for each other)
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cdel00 wrote:Here's one I would love to see
TOR gets Tayshaun Prince & Raja Bell (among the best defensive wings in the game)
DET gets Gerrald Wallace (complete the Roster shake up)
PHX gets Jason Kapono (Kapono reunited with Shaq, imagine Nash feeding Kapono)
CHA gets Andrea Bargnani & Joey Graham (Bargs and Oak are made for each other)
Weird thing is, that actually looks fair on paper. But Phoenix would need more because Bell is too important to them. Some picks would have to go around, too.
Prince would fetch way more than Gerald Wallace, too. He's probably the most important piece in Detroit now because of his defense.
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