OT: Bobcats/Raptors/Warriors - Trade Talk

[Hendrix]

that's a no go for GS, they would have too many PF's, Turiaf, Wright,Bargnani and some may say randolph are all PF's and need minutes for development.

Theyy're dropping their starting PF in Harrington in the trade that was taking 33 minutes a game. They're basically getting Bargnani for Azabukee, which isn't that bad for them.

[NW]

that's a no go for GS, they would have too many PF's, Turiaf, Wright,Bargnani and some may say randolph are all PF's and need minutes for development.

Theyy're dropping their starting PF in Harrington in the trade that was taking 33 minutes a game. They're basically getting Bargnani for Azabukee, which isn't that bad for them.

Harrington's minutes belong to Wright, Turiaf and occasionally Randolph anyway.

It's not a bad deal value-wise, but there's more opportunity for Azubuike than Bargnani on GS

[MinnyMo]

I havn't liked the G Wallace trade for Bargnani. But 1 trade I have seen that I though was decent is this.

Charlotte Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Marcus Williams, Al Harrington, Anthony Parker
Outgoing Players: Sean May, Raymond Felton, Gerald Wallace
CHA sheds salary, adds a post scorer and upgrades their guard D.
Augustin, Richardson, Parker, Harrington, Okafor
Williams, Carroll, Morrison, Dudley, Mohammed


Golden State Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Raymond Felton, Joey Graham, Andrea Bargnani
Outgoing Players: Marcus Williams, Kelenna Azubuike, Al Harrington
GSW adds to the youth core.
Felton, Jackson, Maggette, Bargnani, Biedrins
Nelson, Belinelli, Randolph, Wright, Turiaf


Toronto Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Sean May, Gerald Wallace, Kelenna Azubuike
Outgoing Players: Joey Graham, Anthony Parker, Andrea Bargnani
TOR upgrades their perimeter.
Calderon, Azubuike, Wallace, Bosh, O'neal
Ukic, Moon, Kapono, Humphries, May


I don't like G Wall for Bargnani trade because we still don't have players that can create. But with Azabuike that's fixed a bit. It gets us a lot more athletic on the perimiter, with more ability to break down defenders and get things going to the Basket. Our perimiter shooting would still be fine. And we're better defensivly. Plus we might even get some transition points with Azabuike, and G Wall.

I actually like that, but it would really be up to Kelenna Azubuike, from what i know if a restricted free agent signs an offer sheet, such as KA did during the summer wit the clippers, if his current team matches the offer, there is a 1 year probation period where if he gets traded, he has to approve of the trade, according to espn.

[bargs]

azu is a key player for the gsw ..i seriously doubt they'd trade him

[KrazyP]

Golden State Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Raymond Felton, Joey Graham, Andrea Bargnani
Outgoing Players: Marcus Williams, Kelenna Azubuike, Al Harrington
GSW adds to the youth core.
Felton, Jackson, Maggette, Bargnani, Biedrins
Nelson, Belinelli, Randolph, Wright, Turiaf

This trade is highway robbery for the Warriors. I am baffled by the number of people that think otherwise.

--> Felton has more talent, potential upside and trade value than Azubuike. Even if the talent level was close, guards with passing skills are more valuable than swingmen with tunnel vision. Azubuike would get completely exposed on a team that actually ran offensive sets.
--> Barganani would fit nicely into the Warriors free flowing offensive style. If they could land him for a malcontent like Harrington, the Warriors would be laughing all the way to the bank.
--> Graham for Williams is a swap of talented scrubs that cant out their game together at the NBA level.

How do the Warriors lose here?

[Miras]

would the Bobcats go for it?

Charlotte Bobcats

Outgoing Players: Gerald Wallace
Salary: $9,500,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 15.9 REB: 8.5 AST: 1.8 PER: 19.11

Toronto Raptors

Outgoing Players: Jason Kapono, Kris Humphries
Jason Kapono
Salary: $5,784,480 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.0 REB: 2.8 AST: 2.0 PER: 10.10

Kris Humphries
Salary: $3,200,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.4 REB: 0.6 AST: 0.0 PER: 21.23

NEVER MIND THIS TRADE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY.

[WD-40]

OK LAST ONE....seriously

wizards send/toronto receives
caron butler
andray blatche

toronto sends/ wizards receive
andrea bargnani
joey graham
kris humphries
2nd round pick
______________________________________________
* signs min player free agent
* puts over the cap but trade works

And NOW please a serious one.

Thats a horrible trade for the Wizards.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Well, I was expecting some type of move from Colangelo--whether it be a trade for a Belinelli or Harrington--but it was probably just wishful thinking.

[WD-40]

"Barganani would fit nicely into the Warriors free flowing offensive style. If they could land him for a malcontent like Harrington, the Warriors would be laughing all the way to the bank."

I think a Bargnani Biedrins frount court wouldn't be so bad either.

[Shammgod_]

we shoudl really be looking at Josh Howard of Dallas.

he can create for himself. he has gone back to his aggressive D that got him all the recognition in the league to begin with. He isnt falling in love with his J anymore, and he's getting to the FT line alot, where he is converting. He's attacking the rim like his names Maggette this season.

[08HEMI]

There is alot of opportunities with the Clippers if we centered it on Bargnani-Thornton. One would be

Kapono
Graham
Bargnani

for

Thornton
Mobley
Hart

There is others in the trade checker that work without Kapono and sub in a Parker or Humphries for basically getting back the same players.

I happen to think Bargnani has a bright future in the NBA but I also love Thorton and this trade or different variations of it would balance out the roster rather nicely.

Calderon-Hart-Solomon
Mobley-Parker-Ukic
Thorton-Moon-Adams
Bosh-Hump
JO-Hump

The Clippers aren't going anywhere, Kapono back in LA would be a draw, Bargnani could develop with a youngster in Gordon and Kaman with Davis.

[talha_raps]

After watchin Anthony Morrow play today, no wonder Belinelli is benched.

[MinnyMo]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

how bout this trade brings josh howard to raps

[trick]

There is alot of opportunities with the Clippers if we centered it on Bargnani-Thornton. One would be

Kapono
Graham
Bargnani

for

Thornton
Mobley
Hart

There is others in the trade checker that work without Kapono and sub in a Parker or Humphries for basically getting back the same players.

I happen to think Bargnani has a bright future in the NBA but I also love Thorton and this trade or different variations of it would balance out the roster rather nicely.

Calderon-Hart-Solomon
Mobley-Parker-Ukic
Thorton-Moon-Adams
Bosh-Hump
JO-Hump

The Clippers aren't going anywhere, Kapono back in LA would be a draw, Bargnani could develop with a youngster in Gordon and Kaman with Davis.

Interesting.

You think Bargnani is of equal value to Thornton but I think Bargnani can nab you more than just Thornton.