Jazz involved in Luka Doncic trade

[AingesBurner]

Mavs Approached One Other Team About Luka Doncic Trade Two Weeks Ago
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279039/Mavs-Approached-One-Other-Team-About-Luka-Doncic-Trade-Two-Weeks-Ago

Who was the team? Not sure Utah had the juice player wise to get it done.

[Inigo Montoya]

Mavs Approached One Other Team About Luka Doncic Trade Two Weeks Ago
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279039/Mavs-Approached-One-Other-Team-About-Luka-Doncic-Trade-Two-Weeks-Ago

Who was the team? Not sure Utah had the juice player wise to get it done.

The article doesn't say. But we know the Jazz knew because they were part of the deal.

[AingesBurner]

Mavs Approached One Other Team About Luka Doncic Trade Two Weeks Ago
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279039/Mavs-Approached-One-Other-Team-About-Luka-Doncic-Trade-Two-Weeks-Ago

Who was the team? Not sure Utah had the juice player wise to get it done.

The article doesn't say. But we know the Jazz knew because they were part of the deal.

If it was Utah they approached, what is wrong with Luka?

[Inigo Montoya]

Who was the team? Not sure Utah had the juice player wise to get it done.

The article doesn't say. But we know the Jazz knew because they were part of the deal.

If it was Utah they approached, what is wrong with Luka?

The question is what's wrong with Nico Harrison:

“We really feel like we got ahead of what was going to be a tumultuous summer, him being eligible for the supermax and also a year away from him being able to opt out of any contract.

"And so we really felt like we got out in front of that. We know teams, they’ve had it out there, teams have been loading up to try to sign him once that comes available," reasoned Harrison on why he dealt Doncic for a packaging including Anthony Davis.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279040/Nico-Harrison-On-Trading-Luka-Doncic-Mavs-Got-Ahead-Of-Potential-Tumultuous-Summer

So he knew teams were loading up assets to offer and yet he chose not to tell anyone and drive up the price. That's abdication of duty, dude should be fired for that. Instead, he'll be fired in a few seasons when it becomes even more glaringly obvious that this was a historic mistake. The guy was worried about Luka's conditioning and now has team that relies on the health of Irving, Davis and Klay....

[AingesBurner]

The article doesn't say. But we know the Jazz knew because they were part of the deal.

If it was Utah they approached, what is wrong with Luka?

The question is what's wrong with Nico Harrison:

“We really feel like we got ahead of what was going to be a tumultuous summer, him being eligible for the supermax and also a year away from him being able to opt out of any contract.

"And so we really felt like we got out in front of that. We know teams, they’ve had it out there, teams have been loading up to try to sign him once that comes available," reasoned Harrison on why he dealt Doncic for a packaging including Anthony Davis.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279040/Nico-Harrison-On-Trading-Luka-Doncic-Mavs-Got-Ahead-Of-Potential-Tumultuous-Summer

So he knew teams were loading up assets to offer and yet he chose not to tell anyone and drive up the price. That's abdication of duty, dude should be fired for that. Instead, he'll be fired in a few seasons when it becomes even more glaringly obvious that this was a historic mistake. The guy was worried about Luka's conditioning and now has team that relies on the health of Irving, Davis and Klay....

Yeah, major **** up.

[Daddy 801]

Exactly why I think we aren’t done…Ainge wouldn’t do this without something up his sleeve (I hope).

The deal was going to get done whether or not we were involved. No one saw this trade coming so Ainge could have just been doing his best to get a couple seconds on a deal that someone needed to take some filler. But LA can retool easy now having Luka.

But Ainge did see this trade coming since he was part of it. He was one of the only ones who did know. The old Ainge would have undercut the Lakers and given the Mavs a king's ransom for Doncic, leaving the Lakers bamboozled and crying in the dust.

Dallas wants to “contend” now. You and I may think that’s delusional, but they clearly they didn’t. Otherwise they would have traded with Rockets, OKC, Jazz, or Spurs and just get picks. AD is an easily a top 20 player and can play like a top 5 on any given night. Without Lauri available we don’t have any player close to sniffing that.

I suspect with the new CBA the way it is we will see more movement of high level players. Teams have to nail the timeline of a given player and it will result in some big players moving. KAT and Luka would not have been moved under the old CBA….at least that’s my opinion.

Dallas screwed up in my opinion because they should have traded Kyrie. They must really, really not believe in Luka’s health.

[Inigo Montoya]

Dallas wants to “contend” now. You and I may think that’s delusional, but they clearly they didn’t. Otherwise they would have traded with Rockets, OKC, Jazz, or Spurs and just get picks. AD is an easily a top 20 player and can play like a top 5 on any given night. Without Lauri available we don’t have any player close to sniffing that.

Yeah, you're right. It's just such a stupid trade.

[Fido]

And word is that by being traded, Luka is no longer eligible for the supermax extension. It is interesting to see teams trying to avoid the situations like you see in New Orleans with Zion Williamson or Philadelphia with Joel Embiid, or even in LAC with Kawhi where guys sign huge deals, only to sit out injured most of the season. They felt like Luka was headed down that path and didn't want to pay him that supermax to wear a suit on the sideline. And apparently his agent was going to push for the supermax.

Just looking over his games played, this year he has played in a career low 45% of available games while pulling down $43m. Over his career he has appeared in 76% of available games--81% prior to this year.

[Inigo Montoya]

And word is that by being traded, Luka is no longer eligible for the supermax extension. It is interesting to see teams trying to avoid the situations like you see in New Orleans with Zion Williamson or Philadelphia with Joel Embiid, or even in LAC with Kawhi where guys sign huge deals, only to sit out injured most of the season. They felt like Luka was headed down that path and didn't want to pay him that supermax to wear a suit on the sideline. And apparently his agent was going to push for the supermax.

Just looking over his games played, this year he has played in a career low 45% of available games while pulling down $43m. Over his career he has appeared in 76% of available games--81% prior to this year.

This reasoning would have made a lot more sense if the Mavs traded Luka for someone who isn't 5 years older and is even more injury prone.

[Fido]

Interestingly enough, despite the well deserved injury prone reputation, Anthony Davis has played in 91% of available games in 2023-24 and 2024-25, and 83.4% if you go back and include 2023-24. All those numbers are better than Doncic's availability in any season of his career.

[Inigo Montoya]

Interestingly enough, despite the well deserved injury prone reputation, Anthony Davis has played in 91% of available games in 2023-24 and 2024-25, and 83.4% if you go back and include 2023-24. All those numbers are better than Doncic's availability in any season of his career.

I think it's more helpful to look at the span of the entire career of both players. Choosing at which seasons to look at can wildly change the outcome of what we're looking at. Either way, Davis is about to turn 32 in about two months and there is no reason to expect him to become more durable as he ages, while Luka is only 26 (in less than a month).

[Hoops Addict]

The LUKA trade.........there musthave been something illegal involved, somekind of coercion or blackmail, because nobody would trade their much better superstar for an older player who is not as good. Someday we will find the real story.

[Daddy 801]

The LUKA trade.........there musthave been something illegal involved, somekind of coercion or blackmail, because nobody would trade their much better superstar for an older player who is not as good. Someday we will find the real story.

My favorite comment so far has been that the GM of Dallas use to hang with Diddy and the GM of LA has proof of the Dallas GM being a scumbag and coerced him to trade Luka. Do I think this is likely…no. Did I think 5 years ago we would learn about Epstein island and Puffy being one of the worst humans of all time that trafficked in young women…no. So who knows. Reality is getting weirder than conspiracy. I’m just along for the ride.

[Inigo Montoya]

Maybe it's Mark Cuban's revenge for being pushed out.

[Inigo Montoya]

I suppose this answers some questions:

Danny Ainge had only 30 minutes notice he was facilitating Luka Doncic trade to Lakers

Even the Utah Jazz, the third team that facilitated the transaction by collecting two second-round picks for absorbing Jalen Hood-Schifino, didn't know Doncic and Davis were a part of the deal until about an hour before it was completed, league sources said. Even Jazz president Danny Ainge, who hails from the Lakers' hated rival, the Boston Celtics, had about only 30 minutes notice, sources said, that Los Angeles was about to acquire Doncic to be the new face of its franchise.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43676830/how-stunning-luka-doncic-anthony-davis-trade-came-together-los-angeles-lakers-dallas-mavericks

[AingesBurner]

I suppose this answers some questions:

Danny Ainge had only 30 minutes notice he was facilitating Luka Doncic trade to Lakers

Even the Utah Jazz, the third team that facilitated the transaction by collecting two second-round picks for absorbing Jalen Hood-Schifino, didn't know Doncic and Davis were a part of the deal until about an hour before it was completed, league sources said. Even Jazz president Danny Ainge, who hails from the Lakers' hated rival, the Boston Celtics, had about only 30 minutes notice, sources said, that Los Angeles was about to acquire Doncic to be the new face of its franchise.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43676830/how-stunning-luka-doncic-anthony-davis-trade-came-together-los-angeles-lakers-dallas-mavericks

Pelinka made Harrison his bitch.

[AingesBurner]

So basically, Pelinka robs the Mavs then allows Charlotte to rob him. I don’t think the Lakers are going to be spectacular.

[Inigo Montoya]

So basically, Pelinka robs the Mavs then allows Charlotte to rob him. I don’t think the Lakers are going to be spectacular.

The package for Williams does look like an overpay but a key component to the deal are the picks and as long as Doncic is with the Lakers those picks won't be that good. I'm assuming the Jazz could have had this package if Ainge thought it's good enough, and it also shows that he'd want more for Kessler.

[AingesBurner]

The deal was going to get done whether or not we were involved. No one saw this trade coming so Ainge could have just been doing his best to get a couple seconds on a deal that someone needed to take some filler. But LA can retool easy now having Luka.

They have no bigs and anything they can get will be mediocre. I’m assuming that LeBron will stick around until his mid 40s riding on Lukas coattails while still calling himself the “King”. Sad really. Hell, wait until LeBron yells at Luka for not passing to Bronny.

I really hope you are Ainge and this is your take. Would be hilarious. Their defense is going to be garbage. And I hope you are right and Bron stays on until 27.

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