Probably highly unlikely, but...

enIIgma_chan · Post #21 » by **enIIgma_chan** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:14 pm

Trading Boozer to Miami for the number 2 pick is pretty tempting and using it to draft Beasley would be outstanding. I guess I'm all for it also if the jazz fans are okay with it too.

No complaints here~ :wizard:

Post #22 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu May 22, 2008 6:43 pm

If this happens it won't be until after the 23rd pick of the draft is made. Jazz won't want a Boozer for Rose trade.

Pappyman · Post #23 » by **Pappyman** » Fri May 23, 2008 1:32 am

DelaneyRudd wrote:If this happens it won't be until after the 23rd pick of the draft is made. Jazz won't want a Boozer for Rose trade.

That's probably true. It would be really telling if the Jazz draft someone that they totally don't need. It would become obvious that they were drafting for Miami as a part of the trade agreement.

carrottop12 · Post #24 » by **carrottop12** » Fri May 23, 2008 1:52 am

The thing is though, the Jazz are so low in the draft that the really could take just about anyone and it wouldn't matter.

Honestly, even though the Jazz appear to have a log jam at the 2/3 spot, that could be easily remedied with a few trades and letting CJ go. As terrible as it sounds, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jazz take someone like Nicolas Batum or Chase Budinger if they just happened to fall that far.

You never know with the Jazz Brass, they hold their cards pretty close to the vest, and the truth is there are actually very few answers for the Jazz at shooting guard and small forward.

Post #25 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Fri May 23, 2008 2:38 am

I keep thinking about Boozer, but I can't come to any conclusions...

I mean, I accepted -- as we all did -- that Boozer was a terrible defender (man on man, zone coverage, off-ball, rotations... EVERYTHING), but it was a lot better when he just looked lost instead of lazy. I'll come to terms with someone having a low defensive IQ. What I can't come to terms with, though, is someone who looks like they just don't care.

Offense was much the same, though in his defense, his low output there had a bit more to do with atrocious decision-making and fear than it did effort.

It's not like I want to hate Boozer. I wasn't one of the people who thought he was "faking" his injuries when he first got here. I was patient, and last season, it seemed to have paid off. I couldn't have been happier with him; I thought he was going to be a Jazz man for life.

But now.....

I'm fine with people having terrible games when the effort is clearly there. It's why when every fourth game Harpring can't get anything to go, I don't lose my mind. But Boozer looked like he was thinking about sex or dinner throughout both series of these playoffs, and that just ain't cool.

FlaStGrad · Post #26 » by **FlaStGrad** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:24 pm

Just to keep you all in check with this trade idea, Miami would say NO to your trade. With Beasley, there is absolutely no need to trade for Boozer. To someones point, Beasley is 8 yrs younger and has the potential to be equal to or even better than Boozer. If the Bulls take Beasley, then we grab Rose and Boozer comes home to Miami as a FA.

Sorry to rain on your hypothetical trades, but keep dreaming.

hoops4life · Post #27 » by **hoops4life** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:10 pm

I think that potential is overrated.

FlaStGrad · Post #28 » by **FlaStGrad** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:36 am

hoops4life wrote:I think that potential is overrated.

Good, then you have no interest in Beasley... or any other rookie ever. Perhaps in your line of work, you'd never even hire a kid out of college... perhaps you'd never even date a lady if she wasn't already a perfect 10...
Must be an awesome world you live in.

BiggMann · Post #29 » by **BiggMann** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:45 am

FlaStGrad wrote:, then we grab Rose and Boozer comes home to Miami as a FA.

Sorry to rain on your hypothetical trades, but keep dreaming.

Thanks Riley.. but i'll reserve my judgement until i hear it from a credible source.

To think the Heat would be just as good with beasley is a possiblity but not right now, not next season and possible the season after. The Heat have ZERO talent from top to bottom, if DWade stays healthy it's a different story, he's the oil to your machine...keeps things running smooth. If Marion stays you've got another option, but Beasley isn't going to make you better now. Boozer would. Wade, Booz and Marion is the top three that could eventually make them a contender. Wade and Boozer are nearing their Prime. Beasley got a few years before he makes the type of contribution that Booz will NOW.

Looks Utah needs an inside presence, which is why Boozer will NOT be traded unless its for something similar in return.

Heat fans are overvaluing that #2 pick, especially when they turn their nose up at a two time all star. They've lost their marbles if the think Beasley will help them like Boozer will the next two years.... but whatever i'm happy keeping Boozer, but that player option really scares me, considering what happened in Cleveland when a better opportunity (more money) came along.

Post #30 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Sat May 24, 2008 12:57 am

FlaStGrad wrote:Just to keep you all in check with this trade idea, Miami would say NO to your trade. With Beasley, there is absolutely no need to trade for Boozer. To someones point, Beasley is 8 yrs younger and has the potential to be equal to or even better than Boozer. If the Bulls take Beasley, then we grab Rose and Boozer comes home to Miami as a FA.

Sorry to rain on your hypothetical trades, but keep dreaming.

Miami says no to trades? There goes my theory about Ricky Davis and Antoine Walker...

Post #31 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Sat May 24, 2008 9:29 am

What about Boozer and the 23rd for Larry Hughes and the #1?

FlaStGrad · Post #32 » by **FlaStGrad** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:55 pm

BiggMann wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Thanks Riley.. but i'll reserve my judgement until i hear it from a credible source.

Shhhh... don't tell anyone it's me. I try to remain inconspicous on these boards to get a feel from the fans.

Post #33 » by **loserX** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:12 pm

FlaStGrad wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Good, then you have no interest in Beasley... or any other rookie ever. Perhaps in your line of work, you'd never even hire a kid out of college... perhaps you'd never even date a lady if she wasn't already a perfect 10...
Must be an awesome world you live in.

Overrated != worthless. Don't be disingenuous.