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Most teams would love to be title contenders even if only for a couple of years.
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We already are. All we'd be doing is shrinking our window.

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This trade could be great for Utah.
Most likely, just switch Maxiell in there instead of Afflalo.
Maxiell is short but built like a tank and did very well in keeping Howard out of the paint in Round one. He battles hard defensively for position long before a player gets the ball. He would make a great backup PF. Honestly I don't think playing Millsap and Maxiell together against most frontcourts would be any problem. They would be fine with rebounding and very few legit C's would give them trouble (Yao obviously would be one).
C:Okur/Millsap
PF:AK47/Maxiell
SF:Prince/Harp
SG:RIP/Korver
PG:Williams/Brewer
That's a better lineup then this year's 59 win Pistons for sure.
Most likely, just switch Maxiell in there instead of Afflalo.
Maxiell is short but built like a tank and did very well in keeping Howard out of the paint in Round one. He battles hard defensively for position long before a player gets the ball. He would make a great backup PF. Honestly I don't think playing Millsap and Maxiell together against most frontcourts would be any problem. They would be fine with rebounding and very few legit C's would give them trouble (Yao obviously would be one).
C:Okur/Millsap
PF:AK47/Maxiell
SF:Prince/Harp
SG:RIP/Korver
PG:Williams/Brewer
That's a better lineup then this year's 59 win Pistons for sure.
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Carlos Boozer is still young and one of the best offensive PF in the league.. Why trade him? Plus, he's working something special with Deron Williams on the team. He's the 2nd most important player on the team.

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Captain_Morgan wrote:Carlos Boozer is still young and one of the best offensive PF in the league.. Why trade him? Plus, he's working something special with Deron Williams on the team. He's the 2nd most important player on the team.
Nope, as proved in the playoffs, Memo is the 2nd most important player on this team followed closely by AK. Boozer is just way too much of a liability for us to have on the floor. If his offense isn't rolling the only thing he has to offer is rebounding and we could easily have that by plugging in Millsap WHILE adding consistently good defense to boot.
I don't want the franchise to make a radical change to this team but if it involves Boozer and Sheed I wouldn't mind it all. Offense has never been a problem for this current team EVEN when Boozer was blowing goats in the playoffs, and adding RIP and Sheed to this squad would put us light years ahead defensively.
Just look at the Celtics and tell me defense shouldn't be our priority.
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AKsWill wrote:Captain_Morgan wrote:Carlos Boozer is still young and one of the best offensive PF in the league.. Why trade him? Plus, he's working something special with Deron Williams on the team. He's the 2nd most important player on the team.
Nope, as proved in the playoffs, Memo is the 2nd most important player on this team.
What about Pace Mannion?
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Memo is indeed the second most important player on the team. The dude turned into an absolute beast on the boards toward the end of the season, his defense is at least passable (especially his man-to-man), and he's put in a lot of work developing his post game and making moves off the dribble.

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AKsWill wrote:Captain_Morgan wrote:Carlos Boozer is still young and one of the best offensive PF in the league.. Why trade him? Plus, he's working something special with Deron Williams on the team. He's the 2nd most important player on the team.
Nope, as proved in the playoffs, Memo is the 2nd most important player on this team followed closely by AK. Boozer is just way too much of a liability for us to have on the floor. If his offense isn't rolling the only thing he has to offer is rebounding and we could easily have that by plugging in Millsap WHILE adding consistently good defense to boot.
I don't want the franchise to make a radical change to this team but if it involves Boozer and Sheed I wouldn't mind it all. Offense has never been a problem for this current team EVEN when Boozer was blowing goats in the playoffs, and adding RIP and Sheed to this squad would put us light years ahead defensively.
Just look at the Celtics and tell me defense shouldn't be our priority.
Yes, the Boston Celtic's defense is awesome but lets not get carried away here. Carlos Boozer is a great talent to have on our team. He's working his magic with Deron Williams. It would be stupid to trade him away just because he had one poor post-season performance. Boozer is probably one of the most gifted offensive player in the league right now. Rasheed Wallace is 34... Carlos Boozer is only 27. That's 7 years difference. That's a lot to trade for.. Let's not get carried away here.. We don't want to trade away our core just because we want superior defense. Adding another defensive minded big man (from draft or FA) and some defensive adjustment in the off-season can do the trick equally well. Defense is 70% desire and 30% skills.

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Yes, the Boston Celtic's defense is awesome but lets not get carried away here. Carlos Boozer is a great talent to have on our team. He's working his magic with Deron Williams. It would be stupid to trade him away just because he had one poor post-season performance. Boozer is probably one of the most gifted offensive player in the league right now. Rasheed Wallace is 34... Carlos Boozer is only 27. That's 7 years difference. That's a lot to trade for.. Let's not get carried away here.. We don't want to trade away our core just because we want superior defense. Adding another defensive minded big man (from draft or FA) and some defensive adjustment in the off-season can do the trick equally well. Defense is 70% desire and 30% skills.[/quote]
+1, Boozer had one sub par post season, basically teams really zeroed in on him during the playoffs. I have mentioned this before, but during the playoffs the strategy was to stop boozer and make DW a scorer. Boozer just has to adjust to being the targeted, he can fix that. People like to point to the playoffs as being indicative of how important boozer is to the team. Lets try to remember that without boozer the jazz don't make the playoffs. As far as trying to get rasheed, I went to a lot of blazer games when rasheed was there and let me say that he would be the worst fit for this team of any player available (other than Artest). When Rasheed doesn't get along with a coach its over, he stops trying.
+1, Boozer had one sub par post season, basically teams really zeroed in on him during the playoffs. I have mentioned this before, but during the playoffs the strategy was to stop boozer and make DW a scorer. Boozer just has to adjust to being the targeted, he can fix that. People like to point to the playoffs as being indicative of how important boozer is to the team. Lets try to remember that without boozer the jazz don't make the playoffs. As far as trying to get rasheed, I went to a lot of blazer games when rasheed was there and let me say that he would be the worst fit for this team of any player available (other than Artest). When Rasheed doesn't get along with a coach its over, he stops trying.
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Captain_Morgan wrote:
Yes, the Boston Celtic's defense is awesome but lets not get carried away here. Carlos Boozer is a great talent to have on our team. He's working his magic with Deron Williams. It would be stupid to trade him away just because he had one poor post-season performance. Boozer is probably one of the most gifted offensive player in the league right now. Rasheed Wallace is 34... Carlos Boozer is only 27. That's 7 years difference. That's a lot to trade for.. Let's not get carried away here.. We don't want to trade away our core just because we want superior defense. Adding another defensive minded big man (from draft or FA) and some defensive adjustment in the off-season can do the trick equally well. Defense is 70% desire and 30% skills.
Well, we're just gonna have to disagree than. I think defense is the priority and Boozer is the weakest link in this department. Our offense was still very good with Boozer giving us next to nothing and yet our defense was vastly exposed. Lamar Odom ate our **** for breakfast.
And excuse me for thinking you're a moron for thinking that a defensive big (that would probably only get to play about 10 mins a game) and "some" defensive adjustments are going to equate to what Rasheed Wallace would bring us....
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GP wrote:+1, Boozer had one sub par post season, basically teams really zeroed in on him during the playoffs. I have mentioned this before, but during the playoffs the strategy was to stop boozer and make DW a scorer. Boozer just has to adjust to being the targeted, he can fix that. People like to point to the playoffs as being indicative of how important boozer is to the team. Lets try to remember that without boozer the jazz don't make the playoffs. As far as trying to get rasheed, I went to a lot of blazer games when rasheed was there and let me say that he would be the worst fit for this team of any player available (other than Artest). When Rasheed doesn't get along with a coach its over, he stops trying.
Sheed didn't get along with Brown and still won a championship. He didn't get along with Saunders and made it to back-to-back Conference Finals. Besides, I think he'd be plenty motivated here, he would probably be in a system that better suits his offensive game and he feeds off the crowd as well.
I'm not saying we wouldn't miss Boozer, I'm just saying there are guys out there that could fit into our system better for the long haul. I'm not convinced we can win a title with BOTH Booz and Memo. Unless one of those guys becomes a defensive presence, I can't see it happening and added to the fact that Memo is a superior man defender I just don't see what Booz brings to the table on the defensive end and teams will continue to expose that and honestly, we would have no answer for it no matter what scheme we're playing.
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Captain_Morgan wrote: Defense is 70% desire and 30% skills.
I agree and that is what is so sad about it. That Boozer doesn't even seem to show a 5% desire to play defense. It is his lack of caring to play defense that worries me.