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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#21 » by hoops4life » Sat Sep 6, 2008 7:23 pm

Fivas, his style and body may be more of that of a sf but reality is that he plays more sg and that is sloan likes to use him.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#22 » by Soul Patch » Sat Sep 6, 2008 8:08 pm

I agree with Sheik, if AK is traded Korver would open up the offense quite a bit and his help defense would really work out with Brewer's defense. Also we'd never have to see the Korver-Harpring duo again and that's a huge plus in my book.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#23 » by fivas14 » Sun Sep 7, 2008 5:32 pm

I was joking the last 2 times I said it..But he played more at SF last year then SG.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#24 » by babyjax13 » Sun Sep 7, 2008 6:32 pm

No he didn't, he played more shooting guard--that was already established.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#25 » by carrottop12 » Sun Sep 7, 2008 10:32 pm

Ronnie is better in the starting position.

He's a great energy guy who seems to struggle after going to the bench, he gets the crowd going with his 1-2 dunks every first quarter, and he plays good defense.

Miles is better at creating his shot, but the Jazz don't need that with Deron and Boozer in the starting line up.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#26 » by The Sheik » Sun Sep 7, 2008 11:33 pm

Batronuj wrote:Ronnie is better in the starting position.

He's a great energy guy who seems to struggle after going to the bench, he gets the crowd going with his 1-2 dunks every first quarter, and he plays good defense.

Miles is better at creating his shot, but the Jazz don't need that with Deron and Boozer in the starting line up.


Clearly you dont understand basketball because the most important and key point of this thread is that he plays SF. I dont know what a quarter is or a donk, but CJ Miles plays SF.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#27 » by fivas14 » Mon Sep 8, 2008 12:55 am

Okay. He STARTED moer at SF then SG. That was my point.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#28 » by Duiz » Mon Sep 8, 2008 1:13 am

CJ Miles is the PF you idiots.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#29 » by fivas14 » Mon Sep 8, 2008 1:16 am

Duiz wrote:CJ Miles is the PF you idiots.


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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#30 » by d-will8 » Mon Sep 8, 2008 1:25 pm

I like C.J. and his potential as much as the next guy and I really would love to see him getting significant minutes on a consistent basis. That being said, I think you're really selling Brewer short, dalekjazz. As somebody else pointed out, the 12 points a game he scores are well within the confines of the offense and about as efficient as you could possibly ask for. He never has any plays run for him, but, with his athleticism and skillset, I feel like he could do quite a bit more if given the opportunity to have the ball and make plays for himself and others. His shot may be ugly, but, from mid-range, it's respectable and I think it's ridiculous to suggest that he's an offensive liability. Did you see D-Wade play in the Olympics? He played basically the same role Brewer plays for the Jazz and he absolutely killed opposing defenses, not only in transition and against man-to-man defenses, but also against zones. When you also take into account the potential Brewer has shown defensively, the commitment he has shown to working hard and improving, it would be completely unfair to take away his starting spot and it wouldn't benefit the team.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#31 » by outerspacefella » Mon Sep 8, 2008 6:35 pm

The proposal on this thread was to start Miles at the 2 spot instead of Brewer.
As other posters have stated, SG and SF are interchangeable within Jazz basketball. So if Miles actually make his case for a starting role, it would be at the expense of Brewer's or Kirilenko's spot.
Brewer and Miles play the 2 or the 3 with ease; neither of them have a drop off in their games playing either wing positon.
Kirilenko, on the other hand, is more of a forward. Ha actually has played the "shooting wing" in the "four forward" lineup with Harpring, Boozer and Memo, but his game drop off in that situation even more than when he plays the SF (his role in this lineup is almost pure D at specific moments); he has a PF mentality on him, and I haven't seen any sign of change on this.
So, if Miles actually gains a starting spot, it would be better if it is at the expense of Kirilenko's spot. Brewer and Miles should be a better wing tandem than Miles-Kirilenko, and Kirilenko coming of the bench would be terrtific, a sixth man award candidate a la Ginobili.
That said.... I really don't think Kirilenko or Brewer will be on the bench when season starts... and I don't really see Harpring almost out of the rotation playing just spare minutes....
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#32 » by Pai Gow » Tue Sep 9, 2008 1:16 am

CJ is gradually going to take minutes from Harp this season, that's a given. He'll get his time, soon enough.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#33 » by FJS » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:50 am

I think that Miles have more potential than Brewer... but right now Brewer deserves to start.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#34 » by Duiz » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:50 pm

I was reading that we are running out of financial room to keep the whole team afloat. I say we start kissing good bye a combination of two of these right now. Almond, (Brewer, Harpring, or Korver). The thing is that we have already compromised that CJ Miles will be here for the next 3 years, while Brewer and can leave in two seasons. CJ needs to start getting priority, forcefully.

My proposal is... and this is tough...

This next offseason...

Do not resign--Jarron Collins
(TOUGHEST) Do not offer Team Option to--Morris Almond
Do not offer a maximum contract, in fact, make it hostile so that he leaves for max money to some other place--Carlos Boozer
Do not resign--Kyrylo Fesenko

Then

Sign Millsap (3 years, 4th year team option 6 million a year worth)
Will sign his contract with the Jazz, it's obvious--Mehmet Okur

Offer contracts with the rest of our cap to... Shawn Marion (UFA), Rasheed Wallace (UFA)

I am more for us into getting Shawn Marion than Rasheed Wallace. Shawn is 31, and we could offer him a 4 year guaranteed contract, with increasing salary. It all depends on him having a terrible season in Miami, but I think it would be a good risk to take, if Miami does us the favor of offering more to Boozer. Rasheed is risky cause he is 34... But still available for a couple of years while we get AK's salary of our back.

Risky, but if we don't do this, the Jazz will become a financially unstable team. There is no way that we will be able to keep this for too long without entering the luxury tax domain.
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Re: CJ Miles should start 

Post#35 » by The Sheik » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:12 pm

Almond makes 1.2 mil in 09-10 why would we drop him? Fess would make 800,000 and we alreayd invested a mil buyout to see if this guy pans out.

Personally I hate your proposal because its a scared reactionary move.

I think Utahs only large decision is whether to pay Boozer or not and that should be it.

It would be smart of the Jazz to sign Brewer to a good extension and develop Almond.

Personally I would resign Memo and let Boozer walk. We replace him through the draft and have Millsap start. Boozer is not worth 116 mil. Sure Millsaps offensive game is not at Boozers level, but I dont want to lose the core of this team for Boozer.

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