Denver won the Division, Why it sucks to be a jazz fan

Lava Rock Kid · Post #1 » by **Lava Rock Kid** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:03 pm

I am calling the Northwest Division.
The jazz will be lucky to win half of these games on this road trip.
Denver is playing so well with billups (**** you detroit)
Denver is getting such a large lead that we wont catch.

Now Booz is not gonna be back anytime soon and AK is unlikely to play.

This had to be our year to win it all, because next year we are losing talent.

You know what sucks about being a Jazz fan?
We all know and accept the fact that the Jazz are not going to be able bring back all of this team next season.
We also know we wont get better talent due to the salary cap.

So we are going to go back to the Stockton/Malone days where we have two very highly paid quality players surrounded by scrubs.

A look at the 2007-2008 Salaries show what we have to compete with. I wish the NBA would make a hard cap like the NFL. But if you sign a player you have to pay that player.

This analysis is before teams like LA added Gasol, Or phoenix adding shaq.

How would it be if we knew that Larry Miller would spend another 40 mil to resign booz and millsap and korver and okur.

Imagine if Boozer or millsap decides to leave so we could sign and trade them for say an athletic defensive big man. Basically this summer one will leave and we will get no compensation because we cant afford it.

I dont blame Miller, I understand his econimic position in a small market. But look at all the talent that has been purchased ahead of us.

2007-2008 TEAM-BY-TEAM SALARY ANALYSIS

1. New York Knicks
$95.294 million

2. Dallas Mavericks
$94.273 million

3. Denver Nuggets
$83.816 million

4. Miami Heat
$74.932 million

5. Boston Celtics
$74.358 million

6. Philadelphia 76ers
Salary: $73.838 million

7. Cleveland Cavaliers
Salary: $71.564 million

8. Portland Trail Blazers
Salary: $71.128 million

9. Los Angeles Lakers
Salary: $70.959 million

10. Phoenix Suns
Salary: $70.843 million

11. Houston Rockets
Salary: $69.399 million

12. New Jersey Nets
Salary: $68.964 million

13. Washington Wizards
Salary: $67.757 million

14. San Antonio Spurs
Salary: $67.493 million

15. Indiana Pacers
Salary: $67.178 million

16. Detroit Pistons
Salary: $67.162 million

17. Toronto Raptors
Salary: $67.052 million

18. Los Angeles Clippers
Salary: $64.527 million

19. Minnesota T-wolves
Salary: $64.375 million

20. Sacramento Kings
Salary: $64.364 million

21. Chicago Bulls
Salary: $64.153 million

22. Seattle SuperSonics
Salary: $63.521 million

23. Milwaukee Bucks
Salary: $62.702 million

24. New Orleans Hornets
Salary: $60.844 million

25. Utah Jazz
Salary: $59.201 million

26. Golden St. Warriors
Salary: $58.586 million

27. Orlando Magic
Salary: $56.543 million

28. Memphis Grizzlies
Salary: $55.630 million

29. Atlanta Hawks
Salary: $54.531 million

30. Charlotte Bobcats
Salary: $52.875 million

Lastly, I appoligize about the rant,

PS Orlando and New Orleans deserve some credit for their salary compared to their competitiveness.

El Turco · Post #2 » by **El Turco** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:20 pm

you are overreacting.

Lava Rock Kid · Post #3 » by **Lava Rock Kid** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:33 am

by ElTurco on Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:20 pm

you are overreacting

How so?

I am assuming you are speaking about Denver winning the division.
Well we didnt beat Denver by much last season and they have a pretty good lead.
And We cant beat the injury bug.
And Sloan still plays Matt Harping (Did I mention he played high school football?)

HammerDunk · Post #4 » by **HammerDunk** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:49 am

Give them time. I still don't buy them being a great team. They have played a lot of softies and beat them, big deal. We'll see how it goes during the rest of the season.

JazzFan4Life18 · Post #5 » by **JazzFan4Life18** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:34 am

As bad as things look now (and really, it's not THAT bad), it looked a LOT worse last year.

Cheer up.

Duiz · Post #6 » by **Duiz** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:41 am

Keith McClown, Milt Falatio, Hoffa, Jason Fart, Girichuck... I don't know, at least this year we have the staff to make it happen, it all lies in effort, and it is comforting to know that even if we get into the playoffs as an 8th seed, that we still have a championship caliber roster capable of turning it on.

OC Jazzfan · Post #7 » by **OC Jazzfan** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:52 am

HammerDunk wrote:Give them time. I still don't buy them being a great team. They have played a lot of softies and beat them, big deal. We'll see how it goes during the rest of the season.

I don't know if they're a "great" team either, but of their 8 losses, only 1 is to a .500 or worse team and that was without A.I. or Billups in the lineup. They beat Boston at Boston and San Antonio in San Antonio.
I think the Billups for A.I. trade was huge for them.

The Jazz have already lost to 6 teams who currently are .500 or worse. That's 6 of 11 losses. In the end, I'm afraid for the Jazz it will come down to not who they beat, but who they lost to. It'll be hard for them to win the division if they don't beat the teams they should beat. The home record is almost assured to be worse than last year so unless they make a drastic improvement on the road they will end up with a worse overall record than last year.

Nope, I don't see the Jazz winning the NW this year unless they really turn things around and catch on fire. Who knows though, if Boozer's sore clitoris heals and Milsap comes off the bench with AK the Jazz on paper should be tough to beat.

Soul Patch · Post #8 » by **Soul Patch** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:45 am

We're going to have the same record as the Nuggets but we'll have the tie breakers.

Fido · Post #9 » by **Fido** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:13 pm

at guys throwing in the towel on the season before Christmas. Its not like this is the OKC Thunder or something.

Lava Rock Kid · Post #10 » by **Lava Rock Kid** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:35 pm

So how many games seperated 1st to 9th last year in the west. I know it is before christmas, but how far do you want to fall back.

lapassione · Post #11 » by **lapassione** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:05 am

jazz will win the division. definitely.

EMB6903 · Post #12 » by **EMB6903** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:44 am

Nuggets won the divison? You do realize Jazz are 2 games back battling injuries the entire year (starting to get healthy), and that its only late December, right?

Im not buying this, Jazz and the Nuggets will both be battling towards the end of the year for the Northwest. And this Boozer situation will be forgotten within 2 weeks (the guy said hes opting out, why wouldnt he want a multi year contract instead of risking an injury, WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL???)

lapassione · Post #13 » by **lapassione** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:03 am

Jazz is 1 (ONE) game away from no:2 seed. and 54 games to play!

prekazi · Post #14 » by **prekazi** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:57 pm

calm down! Denver isn't that good. Just tested them yesterday.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #15 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:04 pm

what about portland?

freakazoid · Post #16 » by **freakazoid** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 5:45 am

oh, ****.

We're 2 games back with only 40 or so to go?

We're screwed. Nobody has ever overcome something like that.

Trade the whole team.

Wait...Lava rock kid started this?

That kid sucks.

My bad.