Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

sendai91
Rookie
Posts: 1,247
And1: 14
Joined: Apr 02, 2006

Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#1 » by sendai91 » Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:59 pm

Two interesting notes on current and former Jazz players:

Koufos's PER rating is higher than that of Greg Oden per the following ranking: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinge ... asonType=2

Kosta is also the fifth-highest rated rookie from last year's class. Whether you buy into Hollinger's rankings or analysis or not, this is a great reflection on what turned out to be a very fortunate pick by the Jazz.

Also, Dee Brown was released by the Suns today. Given that anybody would be better than Dragic, the current backup PG in Phoenix, it really makes you wonder what causes teams (Utah, Washington, Phoenix) decide that this is not a guy they want in their lockerroom.
David Ginola 14
Sophomore
Posts: 247
And1: 2
Joined: Jan 04, 2009

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#2 » by David Ginola 14 » Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:25 pm

sendai91 wrote:Two interesting notes on current and former Jazz players:

Koufos's PER rating is higher than that of Greg Oden per the following ranking: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinge ... asonType=2

Kosta is also the fifth-highest rated rookie from last year's class. Whether you buy into Hollinger's rankings or analysis or not, this is a great reflection on what turned out to be a very fortunate pick by the Jazz.

Also, Dee Brown was released by the Suns today. Given that anybody would be better than Dragic, the current backup PG in Phoenix, it really makes you wonder what causes teams (Utah, Washington, Phoenix) decide that this is not a guy they want in their lockerroom.

Koufos is a potentially good players...
I'm an Italian Jazz fan...
Sorry for my English...
User avatar
DelaneyRudd
Senior Mod
Senior Mod
Posts: 104,536
And1: 9,466
Joined: Nov 17, 2006
     

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#3 » by DelaneyRudd » Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:41 pm

I think Dee is probably just not good enough. I don't think he has an epically poor personality and that's why he won't stick. He might find a spot like Earl Boykins or Carlos Arroyo did some day and stick a season or two.
User avatar
Soul Patch
RealGM
Posts: 21,263
And1: 948
Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Location: I'm at the White Castle
Contact:

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#4 » by Soul Patch » Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:51 pm

I'd fully take Brown over Price right now, I think Brevin would be the perfect mentor for Dee and Dwill would have another best friend on his team thus making him more invested in the team.
Jugs wrote:Fark orf slet kent dome wuote ujquote exp
User avatar
FJS
Senior Mod - Jazz
Senior Mod - Jazz
Posts: 18,793
And1: 2,162
Joined: Sep 19, 2002
Location: Barcelona, Spain
   

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#5 » by FJS » Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:07 pm

Koufos was a steal. The guy is only 19 and have big body and he is right now producing. He ig gonna be our center for years.
We are lucky that he and Memo and Millsap can coexist, because Memo y Koufos can play both positions, PF/C so they can back up Millsap and play together.
Image
fivas14
Banned User
Posts: 1,658
And1: 0
Joined: May 20, 2008

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#6 » by fivas14 » Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:28 pm

Hopefully he can make it into the Rookie/Sophmore game...small chance.
carrottop12
RealGM
Posts: 21,602
And1: 30
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
Location: why you take out my sig for?

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#7 » by carrottop12 » Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:54 pm

I hope Dee can make it into the league. And I would have to say his attitude is probably the last reason people would be cutting him. From all accounts it seemed like everyone liked him. He needs to develop a persona on the floor that makes teams want to have him.

He has the speed and the heart to be a lockdown defender, he just hasn't developed that yet. If he does that he could find a place in the league.
JStockLivesOn
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 4,410
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 07, 2007

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#8 » by JStockLivesOn » Wed Jan 7, 2009 6:04 pm

I don't see any reason why Dee can't, at the very least, hang around as a third-string PG. Great speed, great attitude, and all kinds of heart.
Image
"Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter."
User avatar
moevillini
Sophomore
Posts: 134
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 15, 2006

Re: Kosta Koufos / Dee Brown 

Post#9 » by moevillini » Fri Jan 9, 2009 5:33 pm

Batronuj wrote:I hope Dee can make it into the league. And I would have to say his attitude is probably the last reason people would be cutting him. From all accounts it seemed like everyone liked him. He needs to develop a persona on the floor that makes teams want to have him.

He has the speed and the heart to be a lockdown defender, he just hasn't developed that yet. If he does that he could find a place in the league.


yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with attitude or work-ethic at all

personally, while I have absolutely no basis for this, I wonder if perhaps he (and/or his agent) wants too much in contract guarantees for the production he's demonstrated

I wonder what would have happened if he had signed the non-guaranteed contract the Jazz offered after his first season - - iirc, they didn't pick up Knight and Price until fairly late in the process when it was obvious Dee was not going to sign - - perhaps had he signed that contract, he might have stuck for the season. I could be way off-base, but that's just my feeling.

Koufos is the real deal entirely - I was hoping he'd end up on the Jazz. I wish him well, he's doing a good job so far.

Return to Utah Jazz