S&T (Boozer) more likely if Pistons snag Gordon?

CAE15 · Post #1 » by **CAE15** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:03 pm

With the talk of Gordon going to the pistons, one would think (unless utah wants to retain boozer) that boozer would be dealt in a S&T unless he wants to play for OKC or who else has cap the cats?. Perhaps detroit still ends up getting boozer and we get RIP/Tay and maybe something else?

babyjax13 · Post #2 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:11 pm

If they exercise their team option on Kwame Brown and sign Gordon for $11,000,000 they still have $12,000,000 to sign Boozer.

kebutah · Post #3 » by **kebutah** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:25 pm

Kwame Brown has a player option. Detroit also has salary holds (Unrestricted free agents) Iverson, Wallce, and McDyess. These players would need to be renounced. They also have a hold for the #15 draft choice. They also have minimum salary holds on any players below the 13 player total. It appears that they have almost $17M without renouncing. That is why the S&T scenario has been broached.

erudite23 · Post #4 » by **erudite23** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:11 pm

^^^^Exactly. No one seems to know exactly how much they have, though some Piston fans estimate as much as 24m, while other reports suggest closer to 19ish.

The bottom line for Carlos Boozer is that he won't be getting his big $$ unless Detroit decides to pony up. The only other team that I would genuinely be concerned about getting him would be Memphis. They have a stable of young talent, a strong young center, two very talented wings and a promising young PG. The only real gaping hole is at PF. The problem there is that they don't appear willing to spend the $$ it will take to get him.

No, its Detroit or bust for Carlos. I really think that, when it's all said and done, he decides to pick up his option. The FA crop for 2010 is much more crowded, true, but there is also going to be quite a few more teams with cap space available as well. If Boozer can stay healthy and regain the form he showed from 06 thru the beginning of last season, he will be able to command a much better deal than he will get this summer. I know he thinks his abilities speak for themselves, but he is dead wrong.

rick333 · Post #5 » by **rick333** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:22 pm

If he picks up his option we need to trade him to someone who wants to free up money for 2010. He will be more of an asset with one year left than a S&T.

outerspacefella · Post #6 » by **outerspacefella** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:18 pm

rick333 wrote:If he picks up his option we need to trade him to someone who wants to free up money for 2010. He will be more of an asset with one year left than a S&T.

Lamentably enough, I'm starting to think dude's going to end up picking his option. If such thing actually happens, I hope Jazz brass trade him before mid season tradeline. If the Jazz are thinking about building around Boozer and Williams, then the outlook of our rotation has to dramatically change.

rick333 · Post #7 » by **rick333** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:51 pm

Call me what you will, but I think that Koufos is going to surprise a lot of people this year. I don't like building around Boozer unless we get someone behind him that can block some shots. Someone who can prevent 10 shots from going in is equal to Boozer's 20 points a game.

carrottop12 · Post #8 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:14 am

The only thing keeping me from believing that Koufos is going to have a really good second year ala Ronnie Brewer and Deron is that he is still going to be only 20 years old, rarely do 20 year old's of any kind have big impacts on teams.

I think he's still going to be a bit too young.

erudite23 · Post #9 » by **erudite23** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:14 am

Koufos is certainly a wild card, but even best case scenarios don't include him playing enough minutes at a high enough level to make up for Boozer's defensive weaknesses. I think best case scenario for him is 25mpg averaging 11/7/1.4/1.8 with 51% FGs and 74% FTs. That would be an awesome season, but still not enough to cover for Boozer or replace him. No, if we are replacing Boozer's production it will be all about Millsap. If we are going to cover for his defesnive weaknesses it will have to be via trade. No one currently on the roster is capable of that, unless AK gets the bug again and starts playing like its 2005.

The good news is that, even with Boozer's issues, we are good enough offensively that we can be a contender as long as we hover around top 10 on defense. This team is capable of ranking with the all-time great offenses if we can just get everyone (relatively) healthy and build some continuity.