Why Bulls sour on Thomas?

HolyToledo · Post #1 » by **HolyToledo** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:10 am

Everyone understands why Jazz want Boozer gone, as he is injury prone, plays no D, and doesnt want to be here.

BUT WHY do Bulls prefer him over Thomas?

Boozer is a post up threat I guess is the reason but Thomas was very good in the Playoffs and much better defender than Boozer.

Both have 1 year left on contracts so thats not the reason. The only thing I can think of is that Thomas is a trouble maker. How will he get along with Sloan? Will Sloan simply bench him in favor of Harpring and collins if he is re-signed?

stevebozell · Post #2 » by **stevebozell** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:14 am

Harpring? Are you serious?

C'mon, Harpring is as good as retired already, they wouldnt play him ahead of a wet paper bag.

HolyToledo · Post #3 » by **HolyToledo** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:16 am

stevebozell wrote:Harpring? Are you serious?

C'mon, Harpring is as good as retired already, they wouldnt play him ahead of a wet paper bag.

Have u seen Sloan's (Please Use More Appropriate Word) rotations in the past? Talent means little. whats more important is who he likes and does what he wants the way he wants it done.

delsol650 · Post #4 » by **delsol650** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:28 am

Warriors are interested in boozer...

Post #5 » by **Rerisen** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:34 am

Thomas is too much like the player that starts next to him, Noah. You can't get far in this league with a starting frontcourt that can't really draw any defensive attention or has no legitimate offensive moves.

Thomas is also very inconsistent, some would say in his effort as well as his production. Maybe Sloan can light a fire under his butt.

He also would have a lower burden in Utah, not starting, but backing up Millsap. He could be given a very focused role, such as to just come in hustle on defense, block some shots, and throw down some put backs or alley oops. Tyrus has at times, excelled in this energy role for the Bulls.

Unfortunately, he may feel he is entitled to bigger things. He seems to fancy himself an offensive player more than his skills might warrant. Probably like a mini-Kirilenko in this regard.

Post #6 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:10 am

Rerisen wrote:Thomas is too much like the player that starts next to him, Noah. You can't get far in this league with a starting frontcourt that can't really draw any defensive attention or has no legitimate offensive moves.

Excellent point. He and Noah are too similar.

He also would have a lower burden in Utah, not starting, but backing up Millsap. He could be given a very focused role, such as to just come in hustle on defense, block some shots, and throw down some put backs or alley oops. Tyrus has at times, excelled in this energy role for the Bulls.

Unfortunately, he may feel he is entitled to bigger things. He seems to fancy himself an offensive player more than his skills might warrant. Probably like a mini-Kirilenko in this regard.

Maybe it's easier to step into that role when you're traded somewhere as opposed to coming in as the 4th overall pick in the draft?

schneiderjazz · Post #7 » by **schneiderjazz** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:27 am

Boozer is an offensive force in the league. He's 10 times the player Thomas is right now. Also, since Noah is a good defender and can block some shots, Boozer's defensive shortcomings won't look nearly as bad as they look here. Bulls need some low post offense. That's exactly what Boozer brings. Why wouldn't they want him?

boogydown · Post #8 » by **boogydown** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:22 am

He's 10 times the player Thomas is right now.

So Boozer averages 140 points and 80 rebounds a game, pretty crazy?

schneiderjazz · Post #9 » by **schneiderjazz** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:03 pm

boogydown wrote:
He's 10 times the player Thomas is right now.

So Boozer averages 140 points and 80 rebounds a game, pretty crazy?

Yeah. When healthy.

Montanajazz · Post #10 » by **Montanajazz** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:24 pm

Utah needs change!! It doesn't happen very often. The Kirlinko, Okur, Boozer experiment hasn't worked. That was the last time change was met. It was precipitated by the Malone/Stockten departures. It is 2009-time for some new gutwork by O'conner. Let Boozer, Miles, Kirlinko go and lets move on with a younger/and or more physically talented team. Maybe even a new coach now or by next year.

drivewayball · Post #11 » by **drivewayball** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:15 pm

A younger, more physically talented team? Like one with Mehmet Okur at center for the next three years!

GP · Post #12 » by GP » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:33 pm

drivewayball wrote:A younger, more physically talented team? Like one with Mehmet Okur at center for the next three years!

Exactly, nothing says young and physical like a 30yr old center who camps on the 3pt line.

JazzJuice · Post #13 » by **JazzJuice** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:10 pm

If Millsap opts to become a free agent next year (if he doesn't sign a worth while offer sheet), plus Thomas and Kirelinko expire we would end up with some flexibilty salry wise to retain the best two at the best price. We could also ideally have a high Knick pick to get a good big. Am I right that AK's deal expires after this next season or is it two?

holyboy2009 · Post #14 » by **holyboy2009** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:19 pm

Well he sometimes doesn't grab as many rebounds or score as many points as he should. Wrong place wrong time. He's no Pau Gasol. He's just not that big. But a lot of people say he's got a lot of potential. He's probably better off playing small forward. He is 6'8 218- lb. That's what he sh ould play. Small forward. He's playing the wrong position.

isidro847 · Post #15 » by **isidro847** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:05 am

Dude your way wrong. First of all hes about 230-235lbs. That Weight thats posted on Nba.com and Espn is wrong. Second hes a Power Foward and only a Power Foward.