Fesenko

[Soul Patch]

That lineup does give us a lot of balance. Outside shooting from Dwill and Miles, a slasher in Brewer, Boozer playing the high post, and Fesenko banging down low. Second lineup has Okur spreading the floor for Millsap who bangs a bit more than Boozer does offensively.

[Neon Black]

Memo and Booze really should never be on the floor at once.

[TexFTW]

I'd rather go with a defensive paint with Koufos and free Deron to score as much as he likes.

[Montanajazz]

Fesenko needs to get time now, early in the season to perfect any kind of game. BRINGING OKUR OFF THE BENCH KEEPS BOOZER FROM HAVING TO PLAY ANY CENTER. With out Korver or Miles for awhile keeps jerry making the lineup creative. Play wes mathrews more now also, to get him into the games(both at shooting guard and small forward.)

Williams Price Maynor
Brewer Price Mathews
Kirlinko Mathews Milsap
Boozer Milsap Koufos
Fesenko Okur Koufos

When Miles and Korver get back, Brewer goes to small forward, with kirlinko his back=up

[Soul Patch]

I'd rather go with a defensive paint with Koufos and free Deron to score as much as he likes.

We're not a good team when Deron is our go to scorer. We play more smoothly when he's distributing and getting his points off of broken plays and fast break opportunities.

[outerspacefella]

.....We're not a good team when Deron is our go to scorer. We play more smoothly when he's distributing and getting his points off of broken plays and fast break opportunities.

I agree the Jazz are better served with Williams primarily handling the game and scoring in spurts to change the game flow; he has that rare ability... and this is when the Jazz are at their best. I don't have any stats to support it, but I think Jazz winning percentage has to be higher when Williams scores about his average...

[erudite23]

I thought he was ok, but its amazing how worthless he is offensively. We play almost 4 on 5 when he's in there.

Nothing I was too excited about. He can obviously influence the game on defense and the boards when he is playing well, but that's nothing new. He still needs to get into better shape, though he's not as bad as he used to be.

When have you seen enough of him in a game to draw conclusions about his offense or conditioning? I saw at least 2 occasions in his limited minutes where he was wide open similar to when he dunked it and didnt get the ball....

I've watched him a ton. Mostly in preseason and his rookie year in the RMR. Did you see the play in the preseason where he got his ass rejected by an opposing SG (believe it was Martell Webster, but not sure)? He can finish at the hoop decently, but he has very little skill. Although, I do have to say the play against the Clips where he drove right down the lane and finished with a finger roll almost sent me into cardiac arrest.

Also, I might have been wrong about the conditioning aspect, at least to a degree. He played the whole 3rd qrt and while he looked tired he didn't have to tap out or anything. I hope he keeps coming along. I would love for him to win me back over. I used to be a huge Fes homer.

[DiscoLives4ever]

Fes still seems to be playing with a bit of hesitation. Once he start believing in himself completely he should start hammering it home even more

[JazzJuice]

I too have been impressed by Fes so far this year. We need him to develop.

The proposed lineups are interesting and tempting but I predict the following, atleast until the trade deadline:

Williams/Price/Maynor
Brewer/Korver/Price/Mathews
AK/CJ/Millsap
Boozer/Millsap/Koufos
Okur/Fes/Koufos

If Brewer and AK are in the starting lineup we need Okur's shooting. With Boozer and Okur's D we need AK and Brewer.

Korver and CJ give Price scoring options and Fes and Millsap will compliment each other.

It will all be dependent on matchups. Fes did a good job of slowing Kaman who was making Boozer look bad.

[jazzed77]

Fes still seems to be playing with a bit of hesitation. Once he start believing in himself completely he should start hammering it home even more

I think as long as he continues to get consistent burn, his hesitation will go away

[kebutah]

Everybody needs to be patient because he will undoubtedly make mistakes due to his lack of floor time with the team.

[Soul Patch]

I too have been impressed by Fes so far this year. We need him to develop.

The proposed lineups are interesting and tempting but I predict the following, atleast until the trade deadline:

Williams/Price/Maynor
Brewer/Korver/Price/Mathews
AK/CJ/Millsap
Boozer/Millsap/Koufos
Okur/Fes/Koufos

If Brewer and AK are in the starting lineup we need Okur's shooting. With Boozer and Okur's D we need AK and Brewer.

Korver and CJ give Price scoring options and Fes and Millsap will compliment each other.

It will all be dependent on matchups. Fes did a good job of slowing Kaman who was making Boozer look bad.

Ak and Brewer's defense doesn't help Boozer and Okur' defense because Brewer and AK are supposed to funnel their man into our center so he can block or alter their shot. Doesn't really work with Okur and Boozer as our defensive presence inside.

[idajazz]

I really want to see Okur slide to the 4 and play with Fes.
Tinker around with the 3 spot and find the right chemistry.
I like the Idea of Williams, Korver, AK, Okur, Fes.
sub in Ronnie, and Milsap if you like.
Send Boozer to Siberia.

[Jampod]

With Fes just being on the court this adds a whole new dimension to our lineup. We actually have some size now and i think that does a lot for us confidence wise. If Fes gets more playing time and develops his defensive/offensive skills he could be a great contributor to the Jazz lineup.

[JazzJuice]

True Brewer and AK don't compensate for the lack of interior D by Boozer and Okur, but they do a better job of staying infront of their man and or recovering than Miles and Korver. They must contain the other teams shooters just enough to allow the scoring of Okur and Boozer to give us the edge.

My thought is that Millsap and Fesenko have better interior D but much poorer interior scoring ability than the two starters. They are both decent offense rebounders however to get easy baskets. Paring them with Korver and Miles still gives us scoring and their interior D helps to better clog the middle when the guards get beaten off the dribble.

[Pappyman]

True Brewer and AK don't compensate for the lack of interior D by Boozer and Okur, but they do a better job of staying infront of their man and or recovering than Miles and Korver. They must contain the other teams shooters just enough to allow the scoring of Okur and Boozer to give us the edge.

My thought is that Millsap and Fesenko have better interior D but much poorer interior scoring ability than the two starters. They are both decent offense rebounders however to get easy baskets. Paring them with Korver and Miles still gives us scoring and their interior D helps to better clog the middle when the guards get beaten off the dribble.

How do you know that Miles is not as good as AK at staying in front of his man and/or recovering? All I heard coming out of camp was that Miles was MUCH improved and that he was going to have a BREAKOUT season. When Miles comes back, he NEEDS to start. He gives the Jazz the outside shooting that they lack with Brewer and Kirilenko in the lineup. When you put Miles in the lineup, it eliminates the need for Okur to provide outside shooting with the starters. You could move him to the bench along with Boozer, who is basically a waste of space right now. Maybe finally sitting his butt down on the bench would light a fire under Carlos to play better. IMO, Fesenko definitely should be starting right now. He gives the Jazz the low-post defense and shot-blocking ability that they have been lacking for a LONG time. Think Greg Ostertag in his prime with more offensive ability. The Jazz NEED to go with this depth chart when everyone returns and are healthy:

PG: Deron Williams, Ronnie Price, Eric Maynor
SG: C.J. Miles, Kyle Korver, Wesley Matthews
SF: Ronnie Brewer, Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Paul Millsap, Carlos Boozer, Kosta Koufos
C: Kyrylo Fesenko, Mehmet Okur, Kosta Koufos

The Jazz are NOT going to win a title or even make the playoffs this year if they continue to go with the same old crap that has PROVEN to not be adequate enough to succeed. They NEED a change desperately. If Sloan is unwilling to change things, I believe that he needs to be fired and someone else needs to step in who is willing.

[Soul Patch]

Another nice showing tonight. Again, didn't get enough time on the court.

[Jampod]

At least put him in for a half. He's earned it.