Jazz vs Nuggets 1-2-10

[HammerDunk]

I'm not gonna bitch when the guy is sick, but he still has 16 pts, 6 dimes, 5 rebounds, and 1 block, and can't get ANY SPARE TIME on the bench. He spent more time on the floor than any other player in the game. Even the greatest players have bad games, and throwing your best player under the bus because of two in a row is not something a true fan does, but really shows your true colors.

Nash and Stockton had bad games. Get over yourself.

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Ok, I can see that you think All is well with the Jazz. As for not being a true fan your way off the mark, but Im not going to defend my status as a jazz fan to the likes of you. All I was saying was that our players who want to be allstars should bring it like an allstar every game, and it not just the past couple of games that he has not brought it. Take a look at this years box scores and you will see.

Heck I would love for DWill to come out and consistently play like and allstar and get an invite to the big game.

Ok, now what other degrading names are you going to call me??

I don't know if you're blind or just stupid, but it is so obvious that not having an inside presence there to block shots lets a quick guard do whatever they want AGAINST ANYONE. You bring up Nash, have you ever seen him play defense? Is that some kind of a joke? The guy is known for having some of the worst defense as a PG. IF you understood how defense in the NBA worked, you would know that you can't blame all those points on Deron. If he lets him shoot over the top of him, then that is on Deron, but if Deron gets wiped off on a screen and nobody comes to help, that's not his fault.

Honestly, Deron is the LAST person I would be worried about for effort on this team right now. His numbers haven't dropped off like you're insinuating, more have gotten better than have gotten worse. He is NOT the problem with this team, that is so obvious.

And I have never once said all is well with this team, something has to happen, but whatever happens should have nothing to do with Deron.

[HammerDunk]

LOL.....ragging on your PG for only putting up 16/6/5 with the flu. Give me a break.


The reason Lawson torched the jazz tonight was because the Jazz have absolutely no interior defense. No one can keep in front of Lawson, but good help defense can make render him ineffective. It was pretty inevitable that Lawson would go off against an interior of Okur and Boozer.

EXACTLY! You would think that Jazz fans could realize this, but they are always so quick to blame it on Deron. If we had Anderson there to swat layups away as he did for Denver tonight, it would be a very different story.

It's not a "blaming Deron" game. Jazz is supposed to be his team, but he just can't dominate any player not named Chris Paul... Of course the D thing is not entirely his fault, but the rookie made him look bad enough to make the frontcourt D not significant when related with his own man D... Besides, by middle third he had what... 5 points?

Let me ask you one question. If we had a guy like Anderson down low, would Lawson have had 23 points?

[Neon Black]

please blow this team up.

[outerspacefella]

Let me ask you one question. If we had a guy like Anderson down low, would Lawson have had 23 points?

My fellow fan, I seriously doubt the best shotblocker in the world can have a decent night when people is just blowing thru the perimeter... probably Lawson would have had 5- 6 less points... but for sure he would have had 3 or 4 more assist to open dudes... You know why? Because kid has game and he learns on a play by play basis... which Williams seems not able to do...

[HammerDunk]

Let me ask you one question. If we had a guy like Anderson down low, would Lawson have had 23 points?

My fellow fan, I seriously doubt the best shotblocker in the world can have a decent night when people is just blowing thru the perimeter... probably Lawson would have had 5- 6 less points... but for sure he would have had 3 or 4 more assist to open dudes... You know why? Because kid has game and he learns on a play by play basis... which Williams seems not able to do...

You miss the point completely. They QUIT penetrating when he is there, and start taking outside shots. That is the point of a shot blocker. They had layup after layup. Unless they are shooting the lights out, there is no way you can make as many jumpshots as layups. Why do you think defense was their main focus of the off-season? They need it, and they need it badly. 3 or 4 more assists is not likely.

[outerspacefella]

Birdman is so effective against the Jazz because the lack of decent shooters allows defenses to pack the paint...
Why do you think Boozer was able to dunk on him early? Because he had space around the shotblocker. And why was that? Because Miles made a trey and a mid range jumper in previous plays.

Basketball is an easy, wonderfull and fun game to play... and it's based on players making open sohts at a decent rate when they have them!

[Sloanfeld]

Our forum is what the Nuggets forum as at the end of the 2007-2008 season. Bitching about effort, horrible defense. What a mess. At least there's hope that sometimes it doesn't take long to get turned around.

[StocktonShorts]

please blow this team up.

Yep. It's time. This team is going nowhere this season. If they blow it up now they can at least salvage some pride when they finish out of the playoffs.

[outerspacefella]

please blow this team up.

Yep. It's time. This team is going nowhere this season. If they blow it up now they can at least salvage some pride when they finish out of the playoffs.

This roster is not going anywhere... not this season... not next season... not the other season.
BLOW IT UP RIGHT NOW.. WHATEVER IT TAKES! YES WILLIAMS TOO IF THE JAZZ HAVE TO IN ORDER TO REBUILD!
What percenbtage of Jazz fans would be willing to mantain Williams at any cost right now? 50% may be?

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Well that was a terrible game to go to....

I was sitting just to the right of the Jazz bench and only being a few rows away I can say that CJ Miles, Paul Millsap and AK are the ones who need to go. None of them gave any effort or showed any emotion and really just got out worked the entire night. CJ Miles seemed to mope around when he got pulled from the game and really looked pretty selfish all night. I don't know what's wrong with AK and Millsap...both just seem completely disinterested.

Boozer and Memo both had bad defensive lapses but at least they play hard. Brewer, Price and Matthews played their guts out but they just aren't good enough to win games for us.

Deron Williams needs to be a leader. I'm sorry I love the guy and I know none of you believe me but he has been a terrible leader so far this season. He started very passive and hardly said anything throughout the entire game. I don't care if he wasn't feeling well he did absolutely nothing the entire game to give the team any energy or to try and lead them to a win. The lack of effort is just as big of a problem for this team as Derons failure to lead this team is.

[outerspacefella]

Well... when the Jazz put a multichampionship guard around him he played well enough to be considered probably THE NBA PG of the future... and since Fisher departure Wiliams game and leadership have been going all the way down to the point he is right now...
Larry H. Miller's tears (rest in peace man, I hope you have no way to know what this roster in doing to the your Jazz now...) were not only emotion.... his supreme knowledge of basketball certainly told him the Jazz will be missing Fisher big time... Larry man I miss you b ig time...