NBADRAFT.NET takes a shot at Deron

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NBADRAFT.NET takes a shot at Deron 

Post#1 » by Ming Kong! » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:08 pm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... theadlines

The article asks the question of the Final Four helps players get drafted higher, and as an example it throws out Williams who was drafted ahead of Paul, despite having lower career points, rebounds, assists, and steals. Bugs me a little that of all the examples they chose someone who seems to have taken Paul's title as the best PG this season. Also it seems as if one year Paul is considered better, then Williams, then Paul again, and now Williams again. They are basically on the same level, and were just drafted one spot apart, and both are superstars, why use him as an example of a player that was drafted too high thanks to his Final Four appearance. A cheapshot if you ask me.
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Post#2 » by seejaydeja » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:43 pm

Not a very good comparison in my opinion, but hardly a cheapshot. Anyone with a half a brain knows that these guys are almost impossible to compare, and like you said, they've been jostling back and forth for the best PG title ever since they got in the league.
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Post#3 » by hoops4life » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:46 pm

They were character questions about Paul after he sucker punched that guy in the nuts. They were minor question but still questions.

Deron fits better into the Jazz's system. It wasn't just because of Deron's final four play... haha that sounds like foreplay.
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Post#4 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:36 pm

I'm going to refrain from turning this thread into yet another DWill v. CP3 argument... that article reeks of someone who started out with a conclusion and went hunting for data to back it up. I don't think Deron's tournament success had anything to do with why they picked him over CP3. Just a poor article.
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Post#5 » by DelaneyRudd » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:55 pm

It's a bad website, other than their awesome countdown timer.
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Post#6 » by Pai Gow » Thu Apr 1, 2010 12:02 am

Wow, what the hell is that in your avatar?
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Post#7 » by jazzfan1971 » Thu Apr 1, 2010 4:36 am

I think his leadership in the final 4 WAS a factor.
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Post#8 » by Spre_4_3 » Thu Apr 1, 2010 4:56 am

CP3's and DWill's stats are all relative. I agree, bad comparison. The author should've stuck with his Sean May examples.
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Post#9 » by erudite23 » Thu Apr 1, 2010 11:39 pm

Yeah....they've been left far behind. Too bad, they were an innovator in the field, but they haven't stayed with the game. They've become a bit of a bad joke. DX is far better among independent websites, and ESPN's insider content from Chad Ford is the best inside coverage out there.
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Post#10 » by Ming Kong! » Fri Apr 2, 2010 3:22 am

Pai Gow wrote:Wow, what the hell is that in your avatar?


Whose mine? Or Dakota Fanning? lol
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Post#11 » by GP » Fri Apr 2, 2010 8:43 am

Not the best comparison, but that doesn't mean its not valid. This article isn't saying that DW is horrible compared to CP3, its only stating that part of the decision is performance in the final four. I recall the jazz using the word "winner" multiple times to describe DW before drafting, in reference to the great run Ill made in the tourny. So the final four outcome I think did influence the jazz a little, perhaps just enough to go for DW. Its interesting to consider what would have happened if CP3 and Wake won the championship (and DW didn't make the tourney)......I think the jazz might have gone with CP3.
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Post#12 » by carrottop12 » Fri Apr 2, 2010 8:49 am

If Paul hadn't punched Julius Hodge he would have been a Jazz man.
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Post#13 » by DelaneyRudd » Fri Apr 2, 2010 7:30 pm

I dunno bout that.
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Post#14 » by hoops4life » Fri Apr 2, 2010 9:45 pm

I disagree with that as well. It would have made the choice a lot more difficult but I bet they still would have gone with Deron.
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Post#15 » by idajazz » Fri Apr 2, 2010 10:12 pm

He totally left out the part about Deron completely owning CPee3 in head to head match ups
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Post#16 » by drivewayball » Sat Apr 3, 2010 8:54 pm

Deron Williams is not a superstar, no matter how many times you may say it. Leave the superstar label for the likes of Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. DWill is not in their universe.
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Post#17 » by BarneyGumble » Mon Apr 5, 2010 3:38 pm

drivewayball wrote:Deron Williams is not a superstar, no matter how many times you may say it. Leave the superstar label for the likes of Lebron James and Dwayne Wade. DWill is not in their universe.


Im pretty sure best at your position makes you a superstar...

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