boozer S&T to miami for beasley or first rounder?

[StocktonShorts]

If the Jazz draft Aldrich I can see them winning some games because of defense. A lineup of Aldrich/AK/Millsap/Matthews/DWill should be able to play some solid D.

[kebutah]

Beasley has issues with Miami's pick and roll offense. He wants to be in a more free flowing offense. Now does that sound like he can be here.

[Efernand]

I can't imagine why anyone thinks its a good idea to keep Boozer, you can argue that he's better than Millsap offensively but Millsap can still provide around 2/3's of Boozer's offensive production while actually playing defense and at a third of the price.

[drivewayball]

Living in the Miami area, I have the distinct impression that the Heat have absolutely no interest in Boozer. Rumors of the Heat trading for Boozer at the deadline were misreported by most sources. The Heat wanted Stoudemire and the Suns wouldn't take Beasley. The Heat tried to get Utah involved so that Boozer could go to the Suns.

Even if the Heat does not land Stoudemire or Bosh, I do not think there is any chance of Boozer being signed there. They would just as soon keep Haslem.

Likely destinations for Boozer are Chicago or New Jersey ... where the fans of each would only greet the signing in lukewarm fashion.

[carrottop12]

I think if the Heat lose out on Amare (goes back to the Suns) and Bosh (goes to NYC) then Boozer has to be a real option for them. However I think they will likely get one of the two, in which case Boozer could be headed back to the Jazz.

If I were KOC, I would talk sign and trades first, then I would just sit back and watch to see what happens with Bosh and Amare and let the market determine Boozer's value. This isn't like last year when the Jazz had to take a big gamble on resigning Millsap (which they chose correctly to do,) I would be just fine seeing what Boozer gets offered, countering if it is in our price range, and if not, saying adios. If he doesn't get the kind of offer he is looking for from Miami, Chicago or NYC, the Jazz may be able to get him at a discounted price.

[HammerDunk]

The problem with a sign and trade is that the player gets to pick which team he goes to, which vastly hinders the Jazz chances at picking up a player that they actually want in the deal. We definitely don't want Beasley, so a trade to Miami is pretty much out of the question.

[StocktonShorts]

The problem with a sign and trade is that the player gets to pick which team he goes to, which vastly hinders the Jazz chances at picking up a player that they actually want in the deal. We definitely don't want Beasley, so a trade to Miami is pretty much out of the question.

But the Jazz don't necessarily want a marquee player in the deal; they just want to get something out of it. I can see the Jazz doing a S&T for just draft picks, or picks and a role player.

[drivewayball]

No sign and trade option for Boozer because he is nowhere near a max level player. 4-5 years at an average of about $11-12 million per is the best that he can hope for. Put in on the board.

[Fido]

I don't agree with the philosophy that says you need to sign and trade a free agent who might go to another team to at least get SOMETHING for them. Let me explain why--For the team getting the free agent to be motivated to do a sign and trade, they have to be gaining something by doing it vs. outright signing the free agent. In the case of Miami, they have the cap space to sign him outright. The only reason they would do a sign and trade is to dump another player that would help them have more cap room to sign another free agent. I can see it working where a team DOESN'T have the cap room to outright sign the player so they need to send players to Utah so that the trade meets CBA restrictions--BUT if what Utah is getting back is going to hinder their plans to make other moves, it is a bad deal and shouldn't be done. You might get SOMETHING in exchange for someone who is leaving but if what you get back is crap in a bag, you made a bad deal--you should have just let him walk away.The Jazz would not be interested in Beasley in return for Boozer. Miami would not be interested in adding future draft picks just to pay Boozer more through a sign and trade.

[Fido]

But the Jazz don't necessarily want a marquee player in the deal; they just want to get something out of it. I can see the Jazz doing a S&T for just draft picks, or picks and a role player.

Why would the other team want to give the Jazz draft picks or picks and a role player if they could just outright sign him? If the role player is any good you would think they would want to keep him. If he isn't good or has a bad contract, why would the Jazz want to take them as the "something" in return? Aren't they better off with out taking back crap?

[cougarfan]

There's a reason that sign and trades don't happen very often. It has to make all parties involved happy. Nothing will happen with Boozer this off season except him signing with Chicago or NJ

[StocktonShorts]

But the Jazz don't necessarily want a marquee player in the deal; they just want to get something out of it. I can see the Jazz doing a S&T for just draft picks, or picks and a role player.

Why would the other team want to give the Jazz draft picks or picks and a role player if they could just outright sign him?

Why would they do it? Because the team with Boozer's Bird rights (the Jazz) can give him a 6th year and bigger annual raises. Let's just forget the sixth year for a moment and just consider the raises.

Let's say Team A offers Boozer a 4-year deal starting at $12M/year. The most they can give him is an 8% raise each year (based on the first year). This adds up to a total contract of $53M.

Lets say Team B does a sign and trade with the Jazz for a 4-year deal also starting at $12M/year. They can offer him 10.5% annual raises. This adds up to a total contract of $55.6M.

This all supposes that there will be two teams sufficiently interested in Boozer to have to worry about outbidding each other.

[drivewayball]

How does KOC still have a job with the Jazz? Extending Okur last year was the dumbest move ever.

[spoonhoops]

If the Heat are able to rid themselves of Beasley and Cook, then they potentially have enough cap space to get 3 stars in place. If they give the Jazz a future first rounder, cash considerations, etc, it may be a good idea to take Beasley and see if Sloan could turn him around. If not, then get rid of him. He is not that expensive and you wouldn't have to pick up the rookie option anyway.