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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#21 » by StocktonShorts » Tue May 25, 2010 4:13 am

NUMBERICA wrote:Over-valuing pure role-players is what has screwed this franchise financially. Because of extending Memo for no reason, Boozer likely goes at no compensation to the Jazz. Because Harpring was given 4 years, the only promising PG backup since Eisley (an asset that could've also meant more in another trade as well) had to be dumped. AK's monstrosity of a contract sets the context for all of this.

Giving Matthews a multi-year MLE deal would be on par with those decisions, especially with the new, cheap, CBA just around the corner. Why people want the Jazz to bid against themselves and overpay for players is not within my scope of understanding.

If someone offers him a full MLE deal, let them regret that decision and say thanks to Matthews for a good year.


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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#22 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Tue May 25, 2010 2:57 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Ok so KOC got on the radio today and it sounded like re-signing Matthews would NOT use the MLE. It was still a bit confusing but he said that if another team tried to re-sign him for more than the MLE that we could still sign him. So...not exactly sure how it works but I'm pretty sure it DOES NOT use the MLE to re-sign him.

I'm just going to say this again...I don't even think it's going to be a problem.
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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#23 » by parkerj » Wed May 26, 2010 12:20 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:I'm still hoping his value is more around the LLE. I guess we'll have to see what kind of offers he gets. I just dont' think he's going to be a hot commodity out there in free agency. He's a guy that fits the Jazz like a glove, but, there aren't many teams out there that you could say the same.


(potentially) unfortunately for Utah, one of those teams plays in the same arena Wesley played in during college...

i could definitely see the Bucks making a run at Matthews, especially if the price for John Salmons is too high
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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#24 » by The Sheik » Wed May 26, 2010 12:34 am

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(potentially) unfortunately for Utah, one of those teams plays in the same arena Wesley played in during college...

i could definitely see the Bucks making a run at Matthews, especially if the price for John Salmons is too high


No one will go over the MLE for John Salmons. He is going to have a hard time getting more than the MLE with so many better option burning cap space.
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Post#25 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Wed May 26, 2010 3:07 am

I would take Salmons with the MLE if possible, I've always been a fan.
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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#26 » by parkerj » Fri May 28, 2010 7:57 pm

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parkerj wrote:
(potentially) unfortunately for Utah, one of those teams plays in the same arena Wesley played in during college...

i could definitely see the Bucks making a run at Matthews, especially if the price for John Salmons is too high


No one will go over the MLE for John Salmons. He is going to have a hard time getting more than the MLE with so many better option burning cap space.


word around Milwaukee is that he could be looking at a deal around 32 mil over 4 years

i hope he gets around the MLE though...odds are that would probably make it a lot easier to bring back Matthews at a reasonable deal
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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#27 » by jazzfan1971 » Fri May 28, 2010 10:08 pm

Just did some reading on the Gilbert Arenas rule in Larry Coon's FAQ. It seems that the maximum 1st year offer a team can give Matthews would be the MLE. Assuring the Jazz the ability to use their MLE to match.

So, I didn't hear KOC's interview, but, from what I read the ball is definitely in the Jazz court whether or not they wish to match an offer for Matthews. However, from what I've read it will involve the use of the MLE.

If you have different info I'd love to hear it.
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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#28 » by parkerj » Fri May 28, 2010 10:58 pm

oops, sorry if there's confusion..."he" in the above post is referring to Salmons getting the 4 year, 32 million dollar deal, not Matthews
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Post#29 » by maccca32 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:48 pm

I just wanted to correct a typo in the heading.

The Jazz should be offering him a two year deal at the LLE. At the end of the contract we will have his Bird rights (though the CBA may be entirely different by then, who knows).

Wes Matthews is the Anthony Morrow from last year. Undrafted guy who makes good.

Morrow signed for minimum after his rookie season. He backed up his strong rookie season with a good sophomore one this past year. Anyone want to sign him to a multiyear MLE deal?

How much do you think Morrow gets this offseason?

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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#30 » by carrottop12 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:55 pm

The Jazz goal has to be to sign him to a deal that will lock him up long term, while being cost efficient for what he will bring in the future.

Signing him to a deal similar to what CJ has makes a lot of sense if you ask me.
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Re: Resigning Wes = MLE? 

Post#31 » by JDubJazz » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:12 pm

I wouldn't worry too much about using part of the MLE to sign Wes. The Jazz still have three trade exceptions, one of which is bigger than the MLE (Harpring) that they can use to trade for a player without sending equal value back. That will become hugely valuable to other teams that may be looking to shed salary. A sign and trade to fill in the gaps on the roster is a distinct possibility this summer even if we don't have the full MLE to use.
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