Trade up options

[blackham9258]

Here are some options that I think are possible if we are willing to take on salary.

1) AK + 9 for Beno + 5. We lose AK, but get a back up point guard, and create enough cap to keep Boozer or sign someone else.

2) Ak + Memphis Pick for Maggette, Turiaf, #6. We take Cousins first or Monroe second, then try to flip Maggette +9 for Rip Hamilton +7. With the 7 pick we take Monroe if he has slipped, or Aminu. We could also turn our 9 into Memphis 12 & 25. With that we take Patrick Patterson and then Alabi.

3) AK + 9 + Memphis Pick for Brand #2. Then swap #2 for Minnesota #4, 16, 23. Select Cousins, then Patrich Patterson or Udoh, or Aldrich, then Damion Jones.

I am of the thought that we have to be willing to take on money to move up this year, and that this is the year to move up. Reading Chad Fords tier system yesterday made so much sense to me. If we have chance to pick up the #5 or #6 pick we need to do it, even if we have to take on money. The Jazz are a long ways away from have enough salary cap room to lure a top tier free agent, so we have to do it in the draft. This is the year to do it, but we have to get into the top 6 to do it. The only way I don't move into the top 6, is if the #6 player is Wes Johnson. He will be a fine player but I want Cousins, Favors or Monroe.

If we can't move up, frankly I am open to trading back with Memphis to get hopefully #12,25,28.

[DelaneyRudd]

1. Bad for JAzz
2. Bad for GS
3. Bad for everyone but the Jazz, until you realize the Jazz also then have to commit 3 roster spots to rookies so unless they sell one of the late picks for a future pick again, it can end up biting the Jazz in the butt too.

[LjJazzman]

#3 made me laugh out lough because if we got the #2 pick we take turner all day long. It would be a dream to get Turner. I'd trade anything on this team other then Deron to get turner.

[blackham9258]

How is #1 option bad for the Jazz. Our weakest backup position is backup PG. Sure we tie up $21M over 3 years to a back up, but we get a future All Star Center, and when we need to re-up the man, Beno is gone.

Its what you do to get an All Star. Would we have rather had Martell Webster at #6 back in 2005, or Deron at #3. I mean seriously. There are All Stars in the top 6, picks 7-18 are virtually similar. You do what you need to. Take on the salary, get a good back up point guard (although overpaid- like fisher was), and you get your all star.

I would be willing to offer #9 & AK for Maggette if that did it to get #6 if Monroe or Cousins was there.

To get an All Star in the top 6, is just something you have to do. Unless we lose Deron and tank 3-4 years from now we won't be this high in the lottery... now is the time to make a move. Take on the money, give up the picks, make it happen basically.

[QuantumMacgyver]

#3: In a round about way we trade AK and 2 first round picks for essentially 3 first round picks and a $55 million contract? I'd have to pass. I'd rather just trade AK and the 9 for Brand and the 2, if we are gonna deal for Brand at all.

#2: I don't see Detroit trading down just to swap Maggette and Rip.

#1: I wouldn't mind this, but I haven't looked into the details on Beno's contract.

P.S. Does anyone know the restrictions on the future Grizzlies pick we have? What it is protected and such?

[DelaneyRudd]

It's like top 8 protected up to the last year when it becomes cash if they still never make the playoffs.

[blackham9258]

Its top 13, then 12, 11, 10 is it protection. Meaning it can never be better than 11.

Move it, for an all star now.

The reason I do either the GS or Sacramento deals is because it gets us an all star. Your telling me that a 20/10 pf/c in Monroe or my preferred player Cousins wouldn't be worth trading the Memphis pick.

Of course it would.

[QuantumMacgyver]

Yeah I'd love to move the Memphis pick for a mid to late first rounder this year. How sweet would it be to move up and snag Monroe while also adding Whiteside!

[stevebozell]

#3 made me laugh out lough because if we got the #2 pick we take turner all day long. It would be a dream to get Turner. I'd trade anything on this team other then Deron to get turner.

+1000000000

[rpa]

I don't think the Kings would sacrifice what amounts to all of their cap space AND move down 4 spots just to rid themselves of 2 years of a player they actually like.

[Racer X]

Well apparently Minny is offering Flynn+16+23 for the Pacers #10. I wouldnt mind doing that depending on how good the Jazz feel about Ed Davis.

[DelaneyRudd]

I'd be for that too. Sanders and Whiteside would be a nice draft. Flynn is the quick back up the team seems to like these days.

[Neon Black]

Well apparently Minny is offering Flynn+16+23 for the Pacers #10. I wouldnt mind doing that depending on how good the Jazz feel about Ed Davis.

if this is true we should jump on it FO SHO

[QuantumMacgyver]

Well apparently Minny is offering Flynn+16+23 for the Pacers #10. I wouldnt mind doing that depending on how good the Jazz feel about Ed Davis.

Swap Flynn with Al Jefferson. Big Al+16+23 for Utah #9 and Memo. That'd be perfect! But 'sota would REALLY have to want to move up!

[GP]

Well apparently Minny is offering Flynn+16+23 for the Pacers #10. I wouldnt mind doing that depending on how good the Jazz feel about Ed Davis.

Swap Flynn with Al Jefferson. Big Al+16+23 for Utah #9 and Memo. That'd be perfect! But 'sota would REALLY have to want to move up!

I like this trade idea. Memo would be a nice complement for Love and the jazz get big AL to play pf/c. Ah, hypothetical trade scenarios are such a tease.

[carrottop12]

No way does Minnesota move Al Jefferson for that package.

[QuantumMacgyver]

No way does Minnesota move Al Jefferson for that package.

I'd say it's just as likely as moving Flynn +16 +23 for the Pacers #10, which seems batsh&t crazy to me. And it seems like a faaaar better deal than the reported offer 'sota made involving Turkoglu. 'Sota wants to move Big Al. 'Sota desperately wants to add another top 10 pick because they believe Philly will trade down for two top 10 picks. I agree it seems like a lopsided trade, but look at some of the crazy stuff they've been thrwoing out there and it actually seems like common place for the Minnesota Timberwolves this summer.

[kebutah]

Maybe we should use the Harpring TPE to trade Miami for Beasley and their first round pick. I am not sold on Beasley but at least he would be an expiring contract and we would have an additional first round pick. It would really amount to paying Beasley's salary for the pick.

[Soul Patch]

Looks like Miami wants cap space for the 18 pick, could it be had with Harpring's TPE? I dont know the ins and outs of TPE's.