Solution to the Murphy BuyOut Problem

[blackham9258]

I am a Jazz fan and am tired of all the good buy out and waived players going to LA, NY, Boston, and Miami when they get bought out each year. Not only do these markets attract the best free agents year in and year out, but they get the best bought out players too. The players become unrestricted free agents destined to chose their favorite city that happens to be contending. This way they maximize their visibility for their next contract. And all these teams have to do to get these players, is to pay the pro-rated veterans minimum for them. Who would not want to ad Troy Murphy for $300,000? So it then becomes a recruiting game, because everyone pays the same.

How I would like to see it work: I think teams should be able to bid for the player in a silent one time auction, and the bidding starts at the prorated veterans minimum. Any team can bid, and they can bid up to any amount they want. If the team is over the cap, or luxury tax they can bid but have to pay the tax. So lets say the jazz are having a good year and they want Murphy they would just submit a bid on him. Say we are willing to pay $4M of his $10M salary. If Boston wants him too, they can put in a bid too. But if our bid wins we get the player. If their is a tie in the bids, the tie goes to the lower seeded team. End of story.

In this scenario, the team that bought out his contract or waived the player gets relief equal to the amount bid against the contract, and we put an end to the yearly talent for playoff push gravitating to only the best team of the year.

Think about it: If you're Orlando, and you could really use Murphy and you think he puts you over the top...wouldn't you pay to get him? Apparently Murphy wasn't even considering you. this way you would have a chance to get the piece that puts you right back up their in contention with Miami and Boston.

Thoughts.

[carrottop12]

Hardcap

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[HolyToledo]

Hard Cap means we are going to make you live in Utah! This is America and players should be able to go where they want to live and make a living. As such, KOC has to do what he is doing which is stock piling young talent trying to find the next Stockton/Malone run. His goal is to be the Minnesota Twins of the NBA. Hard to do but he is doing a good job in my opinion.

The Maloofs have given up on Sacramento, and it might be time for the Millers to give up on Utah. These small markets cannot support their teams. If I were the Millers, I would have to consider moving to Vegas (increased population plus massive visitors/vacationers) and/or Seattle. These two Citys make the Jazz a much more viable NBA franchise that can draw free agents and keep their own talented players.

Utah fans are great but attendance is going down the drain and we cannot get players to come or stay here. Even Devin Harris was asked about moving to Utah, and he basically said he didnt want to live there but liked the team and was happy going there as a "basketball thing" in other words he had a chance to win. Living in Utah is a huge negative for him that he would have to deal with.

[Neon Black]

Yeah definitely, the Millers should just pick up all of their car dealerships, restaurants, theaters, ad agencies and move to Vegas, an unproven and dubious sports market. If you think the Millers would even consider "moving", you clearly do not know them very well or understand the mentality of the entire LHM group of companies.

[DelaneyRudd]

Holy Toledo bviously doesn't realize that Las Vegas has a much smaller TV market, lower per capita earning, and no funding for a modern stadium. ohhhh and the LHM Industries owns the stadium they play in. So not only do they not pay rent, they wouldn't make any money on their property if there isn't a tenant.


TV markets by size:
Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth
6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
7 Boston
8 Atlanta
9 Washington, DC
10 Houston
11 Detroit
12 Phoenix
13 Tampa-St. Petersburg
14 Seattle-Tacoma
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul
16 Miami-Ft.Lauderdale
17 Cleveland-Akron
18 Denver
19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne
20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto
21 St. Louis
22 Portland, OR
23 Pittsburgh
24 Charlotte, NC
25 Indianapolis
26 Baltimore
27 Raleigh-Durham
28 San Diego
29 Nashville
30 Hartford-New Haven
31 Kansas City
32 Columbus, OH
33 Salt Lake City
34 Cincinnati
35 Milwaukee
36 Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson
37 San Antonio
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce
39 Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek
40 Birmingham
41 Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York
42 Las Vegas
43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News
44 Albuquerque-Santa Fe
45 Oklahoma City
46 Greensboro-High Point-Winston-Salem
47 Jacksonville, FL
48 Memphis
49 Austin
50 Louisville
51 Buffalo
52 Providence-New Bedford
53 New Orleans
54 Wilkes Barre-Scranton
55 Fresno-Visalia
56 Little Rock-Pine Bluff
57 Albany-Schenectady-Troy
58 Richmond-Petersburg
59 Knoxville
60 Mobile-Pensacola
61 Tulsa
62 Ft. Myers-Naples
63 Lexington
64 Dayton
65 Charleston-Huntington
66 Flint-Saginaw-Bay City
67 Roanoke-Lynchburg
68 Tucson
69 Wichita-Hutchinson
70 Green Bay-Appleton
71 Des Moines-Ames
72 Honolulu
73 Toledo
74 Springfield, MO
75 Spokane
76 Omaha
77 Portland-Auburn
78 Paducah-Cape Girardeau-Harrisburg
79 Columbia, SC
80 Rochester, NY
81 Syracuse
82 Huntsville-Decatur
83 Champaign-Springfield-Decatur
84 Shreveport
85 Madison
86 Chattanooga
87 Harlingen-Weslaco-Brownsville-McAllen
88 Cedar Rapids-Waterloo-Iowa City-Dubuque
89 South Bend-Elkhart
90 Jackson, MS
91 Colorado Springs-Pueblo
92 Tri-Cities, TN-NC-VA
93 Burlington-Plattsburgh
94 Waco-Temple-Bryan
95 Baton Rouge
96 Savannah
97 Davenport-Rock Island-Moline
98 El Paso
99 Charleston, SC
100 Ft. Smith-Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers

[DelaneyRudd]

Markets larger than Salt Lake without Teams (not including Vancouver or Montreal):
13 Tampa-St. Petersburg
14 Seattle-Tacoma
21 St. Louis
23 Pittsburgh
27 Raleigh-Durham
28 San Diego
29 Nashville
30 Hartford-New Haven
31 Kansas City
32 Columbus, OH


Markets smaller than Salt Lake City with teams:
35 Milwaukee
37 San Antonio
45 Oklahoma City
53 New Orleans

There are 27 American NBA markets total (NY and LA have 2 teams, Toronto is in Canada)

[gojazzgo]

Hardcap

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One can dream. A hardcap would solve many of these issues. Heck, raise the max player salary and implement the hard cap and 3 stars playing for one team would stop pretty quick.

[meat tray]

Just make it so players bought out have to sit out the rest of the season

[DelaneyRudd]

People seem to forget that of the teams with top records (one being a smaller market than Salt Lake) only Miami bought their team without any skilled GM maneuvers. Boston made trades, LA made trades and signed some guys with problems, Dallas's best player was drafted out of no where. New York was a terrible team for a decade and once they hired a competent basketball mind they could actually start building something.

[DiscoLives4ever]

I don't understand this idea that a hardcap would solve everything. It would level the salary playing field... but that would just put a GREATER emphasis on other factors like location (climate, night-life, etc.) and sponsorship dollars. If Lebron gets paid the same does he stay in Cleveland with it's winters and lower sponsorship dollars, or does he go where there is partying and Nike showering him with gold, potentially in a warmer climate?

You can't fix third-party issues (location, endorsements, state-tax, etc.). The best that can be hoped for is management being protected from themselves.

[Narcist]

I don't even live in in utah but want kind of fan wants their team to move. Let alone to las vegas..seriously.

Anyways..all these buyout players go to teams with chances to win a championship cause their playing for a half a season usually and they have the offseason to look for a chance to get paid and settle down.