Time to throw in the towel and Rebuild

[DelaneyRudd]

I know Larry Bird made calls to the Jazz FO about Al and Milsap. I realize it might take a lot to pull them away from the Jazz but what would be reasonable. Would you guys be interested in Hibbert or some other Pacer player for AL. Salary's of course don't have to match since the Pacers are way under the cap.

The Jazz would only really look for more need based positions. You never trade big for small they say, but if we end up with Kanter or Biyombo there will be a real log jam. I think they would want to see how the rookies pan out before trading a vet to make room for them though.

[finnegan]

I know Larry Bird made calls to the Jazz FO about Al and Milsap. I realize it might take a lot to pull them away from the Jazz but what would be reasonable. Would you guys be interested in Hibbert or some other Pacer player for AL. Salary's of course don't have to match since the Pacers are way under the cap.

Would a Paul George and filler for Al Jefferson be attractive enough for Indiana? The filler would all have to be expiring and Indiana would need to include a first rounder.

You just never know on outstanding rookies. Most teams way over value them, but the Jazz didn't over value Wesley Mathews. So I'm not sure how plausible it would be for the Jazz to get Paul George.

[carrottop12]

I would think Roy Hibbert would definitely interest the Jazz.

[slc24]

I would personally do Jefferson for Hibbert and an expiring and a pick. I think Hibbert would fit our offense much better than Jeff and be a better and slightly younger fit alongside Favors.

[eLo]

I would personally do Jefferson for Hibbert and an expiring and a pick. I think Hibbert would fit our offense much better than Jeff and be a better and slightly younger fit alongside Favors.

what ????? so basically Hilbber >Big Al, every one who think that lost his mind, people do you want that Jazz ball club to sucks for years to come, Jefferson i star caliber player and you can only tread him for some star caliber player

[Jazzfan12]

I don't think the Pacers would ever trade Hibbert for Jefferson.

[slc24]

HIbbert isn't even close to Jefferson in the realm of scoring, but defensively I would say he is at least as good if not better, plus the 4 inches and 2 years he has on Jeff doesn't hurt. He has a low post game (though not great compared to Jeff), and a solid and improving mid-range jumper. He is a better passer than Jeff, which I think would be a good fit with our team going forward, especially if Favors becomes a go to guy like we are hoping. I also think you could extend him fairly easy for cheaper than Jefferson is right now. And if you remember the Jazz were very interested in him in the draft process, because he would have been nearly perfect for the system we run. NOT saying Hibbert is better than Jefferson, but better fit for the team? Maybe. If we could snag a good expiring and/or a young prospect ala Paul George for Jefferson and Miles or Bell, I would think it'd be a no brainer.

[finnegan]

My geuss is that the Bobcats would take Devin Harris for their #9 and #19 pick.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/0 ... right.html

It would be crazy to have 4 first rounders, but we could keep the lowest two, and then trade the other two.

[Bullet]

My geuss is that the Bobcats would take Devin Harris for their #9 and #19 pick.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/0 ... right.html

The article says they're required to exercise a first round pick this year. So I think the Jazz have to throw in one of their picks.

[Pacerlive]

I know Larry Bird made calls to the Jazz FO about Al and Milsap. I realize it might take a lot to pull them away from the Jazz but what would be reasonable. Would you guys be interested in Hibbert or some other Pacer player for AL. Salary's of course don't have to match since the Pacers are way under the cap.

Would a Paul George and filler for Al Jefferson be attractive enough for Indiana? The filler would all have to be expiring and Indiana would need to include a first rounder.

You just never know on outstanding rookies. Most teams way over value them, but the Jazz didn't over value Wesley Mathews. So I'm not sure how plausible it would be for the Jazz to get Paul George.

Larry Bird is really high on Paul George and when I mean high I mean Paul George could be Tracy McGrady light with defense high. I know its crazy but I doubt he trades Paul George. Remember you guys don't need an expiring from us because we can eat Al's contract straight up which would put you guys way under the cap to sign someone.

[Pacerlive]

I would personally do Jefferson for Hibbert and an expiring and a pick. I think Hibbert would fit our offense much better than Jeff and be a better and slightly younger fit alongside Favors.

The thing about the Pacers is that they need a big inside who can snatch the rebounds, Hibbert is good but he struggles getting tough rebounds which I think Al would be perfect for us. On the other hand Hibbert is a great passer for a center. I know it doesn't show up all the time in the stats but you can tell he was a Georgetown center. Five games this year he had 6 assits.

Many Pacer fans wanted to trade up for Favors in the draft because he is exactly the type of PF that you need next to Hibbert. Athletic and defensive minded PF who can help a 7'2 center guard the paint and get the tough rebounds.

[finnegan]

I know Larry Bird made calls to the Jazz FO about Al and Milsap. I realize it might take a lot to pull them away from the Jazz but what would be reasonable. Would you guys be interested in Hibbert or some other Pacer player for AL. Salary's of course don't have to match since the Pacers are way under the cap.

Would a Paul George and filler for Al Jefferson be attractive enough for Indiana? The filler would all have to be expiring and Indiana would need to include a first rounder.

You just never know on outstanding rookies. Most teams way over value them, but the Jazz didn't over value Wesley Mathews. So I'm not sure how plausible it would be for the Jazz to get Paul George.

Larry Bird is really high on Paul George and when I mean high I mean Paul George could be Tracy McGrady light with defense high. I know its crazy but I doubt he trades Paul George. Remember you guys don't need an expiring from us because we can eat Al's contract straight up which would put you guys way under the cap to sign someone.

That's what I figured, since Paul George effectively shut down Derrick Rose in the Pacers/Bulls playoff series. The probability is that Paul George is just an elite defensive player like Tony Allen, and that is all that he will ever be, but I understand why teams overvalue certain rookies, since the truth is that nobody knows their ceiling.

[Pacerlive]

Man! Tony Allen comparisons Geshh way to sell the guy short. Honestly most pacer fans had little knowledge of him before the draft but after watching him this year he has big time written all over him. His mechanics are very fluid and he has great athletism. His work ethic is why I think he will be very good though. After the Bulls loss in game 2 he got off the plane and went straight to the gym to take shots at 4 a.m.! Not too many rookies are doing that IMO.

Overall I think Hibbert and maybe Brush should be worth Al Jefferson. You guys save a lot of money and get a legit center who will play hard as well as Brandon Rush who can defend at a very high level and knock down a 3's. Doubt Bird does it but its tough to say.