Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0

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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#61 » by Fido » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:38 pm

Bat wrote:
Fido wrote:It would be cool to pull together a concensus draft chart. If you got to pick, what sites/mocks have the most reputable ones to include in something like that? Maybe I'll do a project later this week....


http://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?6230 ... on-v.-13.0

Something like this?


Kind of--except he used something like 22 different mocks and I've never heard of many of them. My thought is that would tend to skew the results if it is just some dude writing a blog based on DraftExpress profile articles and what he sees from fans on message boards. It would be nice to narrow the scope a bit to sites who at least are known to mix in NBA circles.
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#62 » by hoops4life » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:25 pm

Fido...

Which mock drafts would you like to use?

NBA.com
draftexpress.com
nbadraft.net

What other ones are out there?
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#63 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:29 pm

How many primary source-based mocks are there?

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Chad Ford

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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#64 » by hoops4life » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:26 pm

I started creating my own tracking spreadsheet. After entering 5 different sites, I went to nba.com and found this:

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/0 ... ef:nbahpt1

I guesss I should have just started there. They have 12 different mock drafts (picks 1-14). They then have a section with the most common picks. It doesn't average them, just the most common place they are picked.
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#65 » by hoops4life » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:26 pm

I created a spreadsheet that can be updated with each release... not that there will be many more. Not sure how to post it all formatted nicely.


3rd pick
Knight 8/12
Kanter 4/12 (Of these 4, 3 of them have us taking Jimmer at 12 while the one who doesn't thinks Jimmer will go at 7 and us taking Jordan Hamilton at 12.)

for the 12th pick
Jimmer 3/12
Tristan Thompson, Jordan Hamilton, & Chris Singleton 2/12 (each)
Kawhi Leonard, Biyombo, & Klay Thompson 1/12 (each)

All 12 have Irving at 1 and D Williams at 2.
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#66 » by DelaneyRudd » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:53 am

5.0.....
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#67 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:40 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:5.0.....


Anyone have access to the 5.0 mock? It appears its for insiders only
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#68 » by Curtis Lemansky » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:25 pm

Mock 5.0

1: Irving
2: Derrick Williams
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(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker are both possibilities at guard. Enes Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas and Jan Vesely will also get a look here. The Jazz have a huge workout on June 15 when Walker and Jimmer Fredette are expected to work out for them.

Knight will come in at some point too, though he still seems to be refusing to work out with Walker or Fredette. While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either a player like Kanter, Valanciunas or Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on the 15th ... that could push the Jazz to go big here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.

4- Cleveland - Valanciunas
5- Toronto - Vesely
6- Washington - Kanter
7- Sacramento - Leonard
8 - Detroit -Kemba Walker
9 - Charlotte - Marcus Morris
10- Milwaukee - Klay Thompson
11- Golden State- Biyombo

12 - Utah - Chris Singleton
Analysis: We've had Singleton here for weeks and we're not moving him unless the Jazz draft a forward with the No. 3 pick. With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency, the Jazz are going to want a defensive stopper who can guard multiple positions.

Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here too.
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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#69 » by Litany » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:29 pm

Curtis Lemansky wrote:Mock 5.0

1: Irving
2: Derrick Williams
3-Utah
(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight

Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky
Analysis: Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker are both possibilities at guard. Enes Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas and Jan Vesely will also get a look here. The Jazz have a huge workout on June 15 when Walker and Jimmer Fredette are expected to work out for them.

Knight will come in at some point too, though he still seems to be refusing to work out with Walker or Fredette. While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either a player like Kanter, Valanciunas or Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on the 15th ... that could push the Jazz to go big here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.

4- Cleveland - Valanciunas
5- Toronto - Vesely
6- Washington - Kanter
7- Sacramento - Leonard
8 - Detroit -Kemba Walker
9 - Charlotte - Marcus Morris
10- Milwaukee - Klay Thompson
11- Golden State- Biyombo

12 - Utah - Chris Singleton
Analysis: We've had Singleton here for weeks and we're not moving him unless the Jazz draft a forward with the No. 3 pick. With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency, the Jazz are going to want a defensive stopper who can guard multiple positions.

Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here too.



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Re: Chad Ford's Mock Draft 4.0 

Post#70 » by Curtis Lemansky » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:37 pm

No problem. If you are curious, this is how draft prospects are tiered according to Ford :


Tier 1
None
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Tier 2
Kyrie Irving (draft range: 1 to 2)
Derrick Williams (1 to 3)
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Tier 3
Enes Kanter (2 to 6)
Brandon Knight (3 to 7)
Kawhi Leonard (5 to 9)
Jonas Valanciunas (3 to 8)
Jan Vesely (3 to 10)
Kemba Walker (3 to 9)
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Tier 4
Bismack Biyombo (8 to 20)
Alec Burks (10 to 17)
Jimmer Fredette (7 to 15)
Marcus Morris (9 to 15)
Chris Singleton (10 to 18)
Klay Thompson (9 to 17)
Tristan Thompson (6 to 16)
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Tier 5
Davis Bertans (17-29)
Marshon Brooks (13-20)
Kenneth Faried (13-21)
Jordan Hamilton (11-19)
Tobias Harris (14-22)
Tyler Honeycutt (18-30)
Reggie Jackson (17-31)
Nikola Mirotic (20-30)
Darius Morris (21-35)
Markieff Morris (13-19)
Donatas Motiejunas (12-20)
Josh Selby (17-28)
Nikola Vucevic (14-21)
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Tier 6 (All First-Round Bubble)
Bojan Bogdanovic
Jimmy Butler
Norris Cole
Justin Harper
Charles Jenkins
JaJuan Johnson
Malcolm Lee
Travis Leslie
Jon Leuer Shelvin Mack
Chandler Parsons
Kyle Singler
Iman Shumpert
Nolan Smith
Trey Thompkins
Jeremy Tyler
Jordan Williams
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