Who are the Jazz not talking about

Toothless · Post #1 » by **Toothless** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:00 pm

Interesting, looking at last year's mocks and who the experts thought the Jazz would pick. Some thought Ed Davis, some thought Luke Babbitt, but no one really was guessing Hayward. The Jazz have a tendency to keep mum about the guys they like. So who are they mum on this year and does that give us any clues as to whom they will pick?

Most experts think the Jazz will pick Brandon Knight. When he was here, the Jazz were pretty open about talking about him and his game. They also talked quite a bit about Jimmer and his game. This makes me think they are not interested in Knight or Jimmer. They watched a Kanter workout, and were suspiciously quiet about it. They've said nothing about Vesely or Valunciunas or Biyombo.

It will be interesting to see if the same thing happens this year. Last year's mocks were pretty close on most other teams and completely whiffed on the Jazz pick. Does this mean the Jazz really like Kanter? Does it mean they like Valunciunas or Vesely at #3? Who knows, but judging by past experience, I think any of these is as likely as Knight.

Or maybe Knight is the guy and they will break from pattern. It's going to be a fun draft.

Litany · Post #2 » by **Litany** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:05 pm

Last year the guys at 1320 were told that Hayward was the pick, they just didn't buy it (source is Kevin Ferguson from the station).

I wonder what they have heard lately.

Post #3 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:07 pm

Haven't heard much about Kahwi Leonard.

hoops4life · Post #4 » by **hoops4life** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:13 pm

After watching Sportbeat on channel 5, I am pretty sure that it will be Knight.

reapaman · Post #5 » by **reapaman** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:41 pm

I thought many were saying Hayward, I know DX was. Most articles I read said if any one picks Hayward in the Lottery, it would be the Jazz or Pacers for ovious reasons. I was praying for Monroe but when he was taken by Detroit, I just knew Jazz were going with Hayward (still dissapointed).

I think they go with Knight at #3 because he is the most logical and safest choice. But you can see many draft sites always leave some dought since theres some white guys with lots of potential avaliable. Its the same reason many think toronto is ultimately going to take a european. Both teams always take the best player for them but be honest, you know in the Jazz's case white guys typically get a leg up. Just how it is.

Post #6 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:51 pm

No, that's not how it is. Look at the drafts for a decade and look at all the teams draft choices.

Toothless · Post #7 » by **Toothless** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:04 pm

There was always the "Jazz and Pacers" love the white guys buzz out there last year, but the actual 2010 Mocks that I found don't show Hayward as our pick. DX had us taking Ed Davis on June 24th, the day before the draft. Chad Ford had us taking Babbitt. I think Ford got a hint that the Jazz might pick Hayward the day before the draft and may have changed his mock, but I couldn't find a later mock with Hayward. I don't remember the 1320 source on Hayward (I just remember Locke thinking the pick was Ed Davis or Xavier Henry), but I don't doubt it. Like you said, no one believed it because they thought it was too high to pick Hayward. I haven't seen the Sportsbeat from last night yet (I have it DVR'd) but that will be interesting.

I wonder if a few more people would have been slipped the Hayward pick last year, if the fans might have been able to get a little more used to it before draft night rather than it being such a shock.

I won't be disappointed with Knight as the pick, but I won't be shocked if it is someone else either.

Post #8 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:01 pm

We do get attatched to our predictions. Hayward turned out to be the right pick in the end so it worked out. A few guys like Ed Davis and Paul George will be players but their celing isn't as high as what Gordon showed the last month of the season. But, the next decade of games still have to be played so opinion doesn't matter.

carrottop12 · Post #9 » by **carrottop12** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:12 pm

Valanciunas and Leonard.

retiredcoach · Post #10 » by **retiredcoach** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:17 pm

Brian Smith of the Tribune had this quote.

Jazz's Corbin said Thompson's past drug issues won't prevent Utah from drafting him.

Interpretation: We weren't thinking of drafting him anyway so his drug use doesn't matter.

Hello! Remember John Drew

His wiki page says: Drew was a two-time NBA All-Star, and was one of the earliest casualties of the drug policy instituted by commissioner David Stern.

Drew was a casualty of his addictions. Stern didn't make him put the cocaine up his nose.

Drew is now a cab driver in Houston. I bet he still has a sweet shot! Who said the Jazz avoid problem players. Since Drew missed half a season in rehab before the Jazz got him, I guess they overlooked that little issue.

retiredcoach · Post #11 » by **retiredcoach** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:19 pm

by Bat on Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:12 am
Valanciunas and Leonard.

There are at least a 100 players the Jazz aren't talking about. They did mention that Leonard didn't show up for his workout. Any clues there?

carrottop12 · Post #12 » by **carrottop12** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:38 pm

Apparently motiejunas measured out at 7'0, 245 without shoes at his workout in Philly. He's massive.

retiredcoach · Post #13 » by **retiredcoach** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:14 pm

After reviewing some more film and interviews I think I'm ready to take

Michael Stockton and Jackson Emery. The intangibles are huge for these two guys. No one knows what their upside is or how much they can contribute.

And the Jazz aren't talking about them at all.

Post #14 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:24 pm

Hell, I'll buy a Stockton jersey.

Toothless · Post #15 » by **Toothless** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:27 pm

Just watched the Sportbeat segment with Walt Perrin. He did talk about both Kanter and Knight. He also talked about Jonas V. Still didn't talk much about Leonard, and even though they showed video of Vesely and Biyombo, he did not comment on them at all. Did talk about Jimmer and Kemba.

So it is official. The picks will be Vesely and Biyombo, with an outside chance at Leonard if he falls to 12.

It's a lock.

Ugly0598 · Post #16 » by **Ugly0598** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:47 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:We do get attatched to our predictions. Hayward turned out to be the right pick in the end so it worked out. A few guys like Ed Davis and Paul George will be players but their celing isn't as high as what Gordon showed the last month of the season. But, the next decade of games still have to be played so opinion doesn't matter.

I disagree, Ed Davis and Paul George proved out to be very good picks for both of those teams who have a ceiling just as high as Gordon does.

retiredcoach · Post #17 » by **retiredcoach** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:12 pm

by DelaneyRudd on Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:24 am
Hell, I'll buy a Stockton jersey.

Come on, D-Rudd-you know you want that Emery jersey too. It will have a really fresh look to it.

reapaman · Post #18 » by **reapaman** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:16 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:We do get attatched to our predictions. Hayward turned out to be the right pick in the end so it worked out. A few guys like Ed Davis and Paul George will be players but their celing isn't as high as what Gordon showed the last month of the season. But, the next decade of games still have to be played so opinion doesn't matter.

The hayward love is getting worse than the Jimmer "NBA Tim Tebow" Fredette love.

Post #19 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:37 pm

Hey, he left us with a good last impression.