Paul Millsap Thoughts

[QuantumMacgyver]

What about a deal revolving around Millsap for Collison and a pick or filler? How do people feel about Collison?

[Getjazz]

The more that I think about a Collison and next yrs unprotected first rounder for Millsap, the more I like it.

DEAL!!!!

[Getjazz]

That would give the Jazz 3 first rounders next yr which could set this team up for the next 8-10 yrs, with just a little bit of luck. Bad luck winning games this yr and good luck winning the Lotto with our pick, GS getting the 8th pick and the Pacers ending up with the 15 pick.
Say 3,8,15 in a deep draft, perfect!!! All while not missing anything at all other than a great guy in Millsap... Not to mention a good PG in Collison.

[BarneyGumble]

You guys must think having a team full of first round rookies at the same time wins you a championship? Ok, maybe it does (I dont think it would), but what happens when all of them are eligible for extensions within 1 year of each other? Do you ante up and pay all of them the max or near it and ask the state of Utah for a bailout?

Next year's GSW pick is a nice asset. But its a risky asset. We might not get the pick if GS is bad enough, and you never know if any player will pan out. Granger has already panned out, and he's in his prime. He's a scorer, and an All-Star. Millsap + GSW pick for Granger is a home run. I really can't see how anyone disagrees with that.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

You guys must think having a team full of first round rookies at the same time wins you a championship? Ok, maybe it does (I dont think it would), but what happens when all of them are eligible for extensions within 1 year of each other? Do you ante up and pay all of them the max or near it and ask the state of Utah for a bailout?

Next year's GSW pick is a nice asset. But its a risky asset. We might not get the pick if GS is bad enough, and you never know if any player will pan out. Granger has already panned out, and he's in his prime. He's a scorer, and an All-Star. Millsap + GSW pick for Granger is a home run. I really can't see how anyone disagrees with that.

Amen brother.

Exactly what I've been trying to say all along. Although, the trade might cost us one Jeremy Evans to really make it work. That would stink but it would still be worth it.

[carrottop12]

I only want to acquire more picks if we're planning on using them in trades to acquire better talent, or move up in the draft to a top 3 spot.

Going forward we already have 4 top 12 picks on our team, with the chance of adding two more this year. And now we want to add another one to the mix?

If we did end up with three, I'd package all of them to get into the top 2.

[Jazzy13]

I prefer Rondo over Granger if possible.

[Getjazz]

Rondo makes less and would take more to get. If they would take Harris and GS pick for him then I do it in a heartbeat!!

Rondo/Watson
Hayward/Burks
Miles/Bell/EVens
Favors/Kanter
Jefferson/Memo
Isn't to bad at all. Still in need of a true SF. So then do a Millsap, Miles and a future unprotected 1st for Granger

That is a true contender!!! Ok KOC get it done by next friday!!!! Championship run for at least 5 yrs...

[Pacerlive]

The only trade I think Larry Bird will do is Collison + next years picks + Brush or Tyler Hans + Next years pick and Brush.

Granger would be delt for Rondo Chris Paul trade but outside of that I can't see Bird that high on future picks and Milsap.

[countrybama24]

@Getjazz zero percent chance the celtics take harris and a pick for rondo.

@BarneyGumble Having some veterans and some rookies creates the same cap dilemma when the rookies come up for their new contract, it's just a question of taking on salary now or later. I'm for stockpiling young assets because:

1. We aren't contending anytime soon and aren't "one piece" (or even two) away from a chip
2. They have the highest upside --- we need to compete with today's superteams, not just for a nice playoff spot.
3. They have the most trade value --- we cannot have enough lottery picks / young talent (not in their prime guys like Granger) in the next draft. We'll need an abundance to trade up when we likely miss out of a top 3 pick. Also, rookie contracts are the easiest to trade, especially since our big salary guys like Jefferson don't have a ton of value in terms of brining back elite talent.

Tank this year by trading away vets, stockpile assets, develop talent. Playoffs maybe next year if we nail this draft, maybe just miss out. Playoffs in 2 years, contender in 4 should be our blueprint.

[StocktonShorts]

@Getjazz zero percent chance the celtics take harris and a pick for rondo.

@BarneyGumble Having some veterans and some rookies creates the same cap dilemma when the rookies come up for their new contract, it's just a question of taking on salary now or later. I'm for stockpiling young assets because:

1. We aren't contending anytime soon and aren't "one piece" (or even two) away from a chip
2. They have the highest upside --- we need to compete with today's superteams, not just for a nice playoff spot.
3. They have the most trade value --- we cannot have enough lottery picks / young talent (not in their prime guys like Granger) in the next draft. We'll need an abundance to trade up when we likely miss out of a top 3 pick. Also, rookie contracts are the easiest to trade, especially since our big salary guys like Jefferson don't have a ton of value in terms of brining back elite talent.

Tank this year by trading away vets, stockpile assets, develop talent. Playoffs maybe next year if we nail this draft, maybe just miss out. Playoffs in 2 years, contender in 4 should be our blueprint.

Exactly! You stockpile TRADEABLE assets, such as young players on reasonable contracts and draft picks. And you avoid taking on huge, long deals. It's all about being in a position to take advantage of someone else's rebuild or contract dump. This is how Boston built their team.

[Getjazz]

Just dreaming...

[MeestR]

jazz don't tank. too much integrity. not on the players level, coaches level, management level, or owners level. they always try to win, now, and in the future. when they don't, they take advantage of it. i don't think the jazz will ever just trade away millsap just cuz they have no chance at winning a 'ship. the only way the jazz trade millsap, or anyone else, is if they receive what they believe, better pieces in return.

last year sucked not because of d-will leaving, we got harris and favors back. it sucked cuz sloan quit on the team. he resigned formally as soon as he realized it himself. so instead, he left an unprepared rookie coach to try to clean up his mess. last year was a fluke. i don't think we use last year as a reason to tank this season too.

i would be up for trading millsap, and maybe a pick, for granger because i believe granger is a comparable player in terms of productiveness, but in a position the jazz need. if the jazz don't get granger for millsap, then the jazz need more than they give up to compensate, but not at the expense of the season.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

i would be up for trading millsap, and maybe a pick, for granger because i believe granger is a comparable player in terms of productiveness, but in a position the jazz need. if the jazz don't get granger for millsap, then the jazz need more than they give up to compensate, but not at the expense of the season.

Yes with a side of yes.

[StocktonShorts]

I'd be okay with trading Millsap for Granger if the Jazz also deal Jefferson in a money-saving deal. Otherwise I think it's way too much salary to take on.

[Getjazz]

HappyProle, why would you care about the salary if the Millers want to pay it? If it makes this team a playoff team then it's worth it. You never know what can happen in the playoffs. Plus this team has mega talent on it, young and athletic talent. Why not go for it.
I just don't agree with anyone why says that this team isn't very close to or even is a contender!
Harris/Watson
Hayward/Burks
Granger/Miles
Favors/Kanter
Jefferson/Memo
Plus Jeremy Evans, Bell, and filler...

Thats a damn good team that would only get better!!!

[StocktonShorts]

I only care about the salary in terms of the salary cap. The Jazz need to clear cap room so they have the flexibility to take advantage of the opportunities that will show up when the realities of the new CBA start to hit teams.

[Getjazz]

I hear what your saying. But Harris, Memo, Jefferson, Bell, and Granger would be off the books after 3 yrs. Either way I say go for it or tank, just don't get the 13-14 pick and just miss the playoffs. I'm all for playing the Rooks and getting 2 high lotto picks. I'm also down with getting a guy like Granger for Millsap (if poss) and quickening the process by a yr or two.
If they do nothing as far as getting a new vet like Grange then trade Millsap, Memo, Bell, and get all of the picks you can for this yr.
I don't know I'm just so e'fing excited that my boner wont go away....
SO MANY REAL OPTIONS AND A FUTURE THAT IS SO BRIGHT!!!!!!