Trade to get Williams back

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Trade to get Williams back 

Post#1 » by Ming Kong! » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:28 pm

Assuming that Deron was just disgruntled about loosing..

Devin Harris
Al Jefferson
GS First round pick

for

Deron Williams (w/ extension)
Travis Outlaw

Okur/Kanter
Favors/Millsap
Hayward/Outlaw/Evans
Burks/Miles/Bell
Williams/Watson/Tinsley

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Re: Trade to get Williams back 

Post#2 » by The59Sound » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:37 pm

Even if the alternative was letting Deron walk, New Jersey wouldn't do that deal.
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Trade to get Williams back 

Post#3 » by StocktonShorts » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:57 pm

1) I don't think you can do an extend-and-trade under the new CBA.

2) from what I've heard DWill would get more money from a new deal rather than an extension

3) as 59 says, no way NJN do that, for pride reasons

There's only one slim chance for Deron to return, and it's as a FA.
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Re: Trade to get Williams back 

Post#4 » by Amish Mafioso » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:27 pm

HappyProle wrote:1) I don't think you can do an extend-and-trade under the new CBA.


You can, but they have been shortened to make them less appealing.

Contract extensions

• 2011 CBA: Players coming off their rookie scale contracts can extend for four additional seasons, although the team can designate one player who is eligible for five seasons at the maximum salary. A team can have only one designated player on its roster at any time. All other veterans can extend for four total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on their current contract. The extension in an extend-and-trade contract is limited to three total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on the current contract.
• Who benefits? The teams benefit here, just as they do with shorter free-agent contracts -- teams' future salary commitments are reduced. In addition, limiting extend-and-trade contracts to three seasons (including the seasons remaining on the player's current contract) helps reduce situations like the one the Nuggets were in last season with Carmelo Anthony.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/CBA ... s-last-one

HappyProle wrote:2) from what I've heard DWill would get more money from a new deal rather than an extension.


If he opts out, he can sign a longer deal. With the extension, it would be shorter, and the coming option year would have to be included. But yeah, longer deal, more money.

(This is why Williams’ agent said Thursday his client is not going to sign an extension with the Nets. If he did, he would guarantee himself $57.34 million through 2014-15. If he opts out and then re-signs with the Nets, he makes $100.2 million over five years on his next contract.)

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2011/12/02 ... ul-trades/

HappyProle wrote:There's only one slim chance for Deron to return, and it's as a FA.


And I would say maybe later in his career, if at all. No way is he coming back any time soon.
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Trade to get Williams back 

Post#5 » by DelaneyRudd » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:34 pm

It would be the GM just asking to be fired (from a cannon),
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Re: Trade to get Williams back 

Post#6 » by Paper Face » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:33 am

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Trade to get Williams back 

Post#7 » by StocktonShorts » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:05 am

Not about Deron directly, but what are the odds KOC gets the Jazz in on the multi-team trade that may be brewing to send Dwight to the Nets? He knows billy king, and King will need some additional teams to get the deal done.
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