Game 53: Utah Jazz (27-25) @ Los Angeles Clippers (30-21)

[SLC Biz]

Red explain Jazz record of 4-1 without Jefferson? U guys gone on me for wishing a Jefferson injury. What I really wanted was him to be a bench player that scores against 2nd unit centers for 20-25 min per game. That should be his role but Corbin is an idiot. If AL got hurt for the season, I guarantee the Jazz would have made the playoffs. Im positive about that!

It's a fluke....... These things happen...... The Jazz are undefeated without Paul Millsap, 1-0, win against Houston...... So there.......

lol "it's a fluke"

We became the first team all season to score 100+ on the Lakers at Staples, and we did it without Al Jefferson. That's one hell of a fluke on top of the 4-1 record.

[red4hf]

Are you not watching the games? The Jazz rely on their bigs to provide a LOT of help defense. I guess going strictly by 1 on 1, Jefferson and Millsap are roughly on par with each other. But with help defense, there's no comparison. Jefferson is constantly too slow to move over, constantly letting teammates down on the pick and roll, whereas Millsap is pretty consistent at providing help on time.

Pay more attention.

Right...... So when Paul Millsap struggles in the paint, it's Al Jefferson's fault for not helping...... When Jefferson struggles, it's because it's his fault.....

Got it, thanks for that......

And, one more thing, if it's such a problem, why wouldn't the Coaches adjust the defensive scheme?

[babyjax13]

Are you not watching the games? The Jazz rely on their bigs to provide a LOT of help defense. I guess going strictly by 1 on 1, Jefferson and Millsap are roughly on par with each other. But with help defense, there's no comparison. Jefferson is constantly too slow to move over, constantly letting teammates down on the pick and roll, whereas Millsap is pretty consistent at providing help on time.

Pay more attention.

My one question would be, then, why would you play both of them together for long stretches if that is the case? Give Favors more minutes with Jefferson and Millsap and allow them to be more focused on their man. [I agree with what you are saying]

[HolyToledo]

Both Jefferson and Millsap are bench players. The problem is they are getting more minutes than Favors. Favors is our best defebder and the future of our team and he is sitting behind these bums. Best chance for him to improve is to get rid of Jefferson and start Favors. I would even be in favor of starting Millsap, Jefferson, and Favors together so Favors can cover up for Big Als defense and Millsaps lack of height. What does Miles add? Corbin has no clue what he is doing! His assistants are helping him or he is not listening to them.

[red4hf]

Red explain Jazz record of 4-1 without Jefferson? U guys gone on me for wishing a Jefferson injury. What I really wanted was him to be a bench player that scores against 2nd unit centers for 20-25 min per game. That should be his role but Corbin is an idiot. If AL got hurt for the season, I guarantee the Jazz would have made the playoffs. Im positive about that!

It's a fluke....... These things happen...... The Jazz are undefeated without Paul Millsap, 1-0, win against Houston...... So there.......

lol "it's a fluke"

We became the first team all season to score 100+ on the Lakers at Staples, and we did it without Al Jefferson. That's one hell of a fluke on top of the 4-1 record.

We won by 4 points, in a game Kobe went 3-20 in...... How much more of a fluke can you get? And PS, without Jefferson's atrocious defense, Gasol was 8-12 and Bynum was 12-14, I guess that's also Al Jefferson's fault......

[HolyToledo]

if u ever played a decent amount of basketball, you understand when you play with a black hole player, its hard for you to be ready to shoot bc often when you are open, u dont get the ball. It also discourages you from cutting and moving without the ball which in turn hurts your defense bc you are upset you are not even touching the ball on offense. When the Jazz offense runs through the faciliatators (Hayward and Tinsley) we play well, but through Jefferson then its a disaster.

[jazzgasm]

That Sacramento lost the other night stings a bit more after tonights performance

[HolyToledo]

That Sacramento lost the other night stings a bit more after tonights performance

especially since the under-manned KIngs beat the Jazz in Utah yesterday then get killed at home by the Nets today. The Jazz are playing horrific basketball right now! and Corbin's response

@tribjazz: Harris said Jazz are missing rhythm. But Corbin, Jefferson treated Clippers loss and fact Utah's lost 4 of 5 as just another bump in road.

Corbin is an IDIOT!

[babyjax13]

That Sacramento lost the other night stings a bit more after tonights performance

especially since the under-manned KIngs beat the Jazz in Utah yesterday then get killed at home by the Nets today. The Jazz are playing horrific basketball right now! and Corbin's response

@tribjazz: Harris said Jazz are missing rhythm. But Corbin, Jefferson treated Clippers loss and fact Utah's lost 4 of 5 as just another bump in road.

Corbin is an IDIOT!

What else is he going to say?

Corbin: "This team is just a disaster, our offense is terrible, CJ Miles is the worst player I've ever seen and Watson/Bell have split the locker room in half. We're listing wildly and I see no hope of making the playoffs without major change. We're lucky Tinsley is willing to sit on the bench, otherwise this team would be the Wizards v.2."

That would go over real well.

[HolyToledo]

Corbin shouldnt say anything and simply make a logical decision and sit Miles. Move MIllsap to SF, Favors to PF, Jefferson to C, Hayward SG, and Harris PG then use Tinsley as back up PG and Watson as back up SG bc he is your team leader. Miles and mostly Carroll should never see the court for the rest of the season.

[babyjax13]

Corbin shouldnt say anything and simply make a logical decision and sit Miles. Move MIllsap to SF, Favors to PF, Jefferson to C, Hayward SG, and Harris PG then use Tinsley as back up PG and Watson as back up SG bc he is your team leader. Miles and mostly Carroll should never see the court for the rest of the season.

He was asked about it, he made a reasoned response.

I don't see what your aversion to Carroll is, he makes the entire team better with his hustle (decision making needs some improvement though). And Earl Watson at shooting guard? No. People had a hard enough time running two point guards with Fisher, can you image what would happen as Earl Watson and Devin Harris plink shots off of the side of the rim while the defense collapses on our post players? Choose Tinsley or Watson, address the issues with each. Choose Miles or Carroll, bench the other. Try Evans at small forward if you have to, see how Millsap does there - that's fine with me - but we need to establish roles for a couple of players still (which I think is what Corbin is trying to do).

[HolyToledo]

corbin is trying to make everyone happy instead or making hard decisions. He knows Favors and Hayward wont complain about starting so they were both benched even if they are the 2 best players on the team. Watson complains and suddenly plays over Tinsley. Corbin lacks backbone and is a terrible game manager. I give him credit as a very good practice coach as the team seems prepared and works hard, but his lack of coaching experience shows up in every game.

[babyjax13]

corbin is trying to make everyone happy instead or making hard decisions. He knows Favors and Hayward wont complain about starting so they were both benched even if they are the 2 best players on the team. Watson complains and suddenly plays over Tinsley. Corbin lacks backbone and is a terrible game manager. I give him credit as a very good practice coach as the team seems prepared and works hard, but his lack of coaching experience shows up in very game.

I agree with everything you've said here. I think people need to realize, though, that Corbin is going through a learning experience as well. He's started to give Burks more minutes (taking them away from CJ) and has found a rotation player he likes (Carroll). The fact that he is finding rotations that generally work is good - as soon as he starts to become an enforcer as well (a la Jerry Sloan) and improves his game management (which I think will happen) I think we're looking at an above-average coach. Would I like the next Popavich? Yes. But it isn't likely. I can live with Corbin for now - next year will be his test (specifically the second half of next season). If he succeeds? Keep him, otherwise move on with someone else.

[Jazzfan12]

ORtg, which takes everything offensively efficiency-wise into account, has Millsap at 114 and Al at 111. Millsap's shooting efficiency and offensive rebounding rate (which counts into efficiency) has been better than Al by a good bit this year. Al has been pretty efficient this year though.

[jatzz]

post up play for kanter!!!