Biggest things for the Jazz's youngest guys to work on.

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Re: Biggest things for the Jazz's youngest guys to work on. 

Post#21 » by caseygreer2 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:37 pm

False, Favors is getting a lot more minutes now, but they're meaningful minutes. Kanter isn't getting a ton, but he'll get more next year like Favors is getting this year (especially if the JAzz trade Sap or Jefferson). Look at good teams, do they have any young guys getting big substantial minutes from them? There aren't a lot. Kawhi Leodard and Chandler Parsons did because of injury, but virtually every other rookie that is getting minutes is on a crummy team. Jazz are playing their youngs the right way, and they're "raising" them in a culture that is trying to win. Much more important than letting your young guys run the team and developing bad habits (ala Sacramento Kings). Our young guys are just fine.
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Re: Biggest things for the Jazz's youngest guys to work on. 

Post#22 » by caseygreer2 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:47 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
dabenti wrote:I'm sure Jazz will be champion with that cocky answers. There is NBA, right. Not JV basketball. So you have to be realistic. What do you think about Jazz's future? Do you think Jazz can be champion? Do you think Jazz can pass to second round on play-offs with Jefferson and Millsap? I'm telling you, no. Even they will play together 5 seasons, no.

It's not about 19-20 years old guys. It's about Jazz's future. What will you prepare for? Becoma a play-off team, become a contender for the championship?

If Jazz behave a player like Karl Malone, then that player can be Karl Malone. If Jazz behave like worthless, that player thinks he is worthless and he can't develop enough.

Favors and Kanter are diamonds. Jazz have to process them. But Jazz is not processing. They are only waiting for Jefferson and Millsap's trades.

Sorry, it's the truth. You can continue to be cocky and fanatic as a Jazz supporter. I hope anyone will say 10 years later that "i wish we'd never tried to join play-offs and eliminate in the first round. we had to prepare young players for a new contender team."


This is the last time I'll reply, because I've been fairly straight forward with what I think. The young players all need to be developed more, and I would like to see that happen next year my moving Millsap and/or Jefferson. Enes had his time to learn from the veterans, got a feel for what the NBA is (which is a major key to his development) and knows what he needs to improve (which is clear looking at him from the first game of the year until now). I'm honestly quite surprised you got "cocky" out of my post, that wasn't my intention; but the fact remains that immersing Kanter in 20-30 minutes of action every night could destroy his confidence because he is underdeveloped. This season, to learn what the NBA is, and the offseason to improve his offense will make a world of difference. I think that in three years time, we'll know what we have - and we'll be happy with it.


Seriously though, it's rare that teams like the OKC Thunder can play their young guys like they did and be successful. They were able to do it because they have 3 all-star caliber players (Harden will get there very soon), one of them being a top 3 player in the league. You can't model that team and say every team needs to do that because not every team is in their same situation. When most other teams try that, you end up with the Sacramento Kings (aka horrible culture, no discipline, etc.). Why the Utah Jazz would try to create that is beyond me. And if you look at minutes? Haywards has jumped a ton this last year, and Favors minutes have steadily increased all season. The same will happen to KAnter/Burks. And quite frankly, your post has a whole lot of insult/jabs without a lot of substance. You can't just say this isn't jv basketball, that doesn't contribute anything to this forum, and it certainly doesn't prove your point. I've heard your argument before, (pretty much arguing the OKC model), but you really don't do it justice. Try and use intelligent points next time instead of name calling to prove your point.
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Re: Biggest things for the Jazz's youngest guys to work on. 

Post#23 » by Jazzfan12 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:59 pm

The Kings are a terrible example to use because they specifically targeted selfish, low BBIQ players in the draft and in trades. None of their players have gotten less team focused or anything in Sacramento.

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