Game four: San Antonio 3 @ 0 Utah Jazz

[jazzgasm]

Hopefully we get the warriors pick plus who really expected the Jazz to go this far??? I know I for one didnt. Ovearall it was a pretty good season. Disappointing for sure by the lack of effort in the playoffs, but they showed some at the end. Hopefully they can learn from this.

[countrybama24]

I would just like to point out when we were down four, those two Manu threes both were caused by Als pick and roll defense (or lack thereof). He guarded the wrong side of the pick and Manu just went right around the pick collapsing the defense. At least 4 spurs buckets were singularly caused by Als pick and roll defense, probably more, during that 22-0 stretch at the end of the third that (effectively) put the ame out of reach. He wasn't even trying, at the most important part of the last game of the season. Get him off the team.

It would be nice in my lifetime to see a Jazz team with two starting big men who can both guard the pick and roll. Haven't seen it so far (but I've only been watching the Jazz for 8 years), maybe you should give it a try KOC.

[FJS]

So much for coming out and fighting hard, first sweep since 1988

Didn't we get swept by the Lakers once?

In 1988 we lost 3-4 vs Lakers in the second round.
In 1989 we were sweep by GSW 0-3 in the first round.
In 2010 we lost 4-0 in the second round vs Lakers.

[The59Sound]

I would just like to point out when we were down four, those two Manu threes both were caused by Als pick and roll defense (or lack thereof). He guarded the wrong side of the pick and Manu just went right around the pick collapsing the defense. At least 4 spurs buckets were singularly caused by Als pick and roll defense, probably more, during that 22-0 stretch at the end of the third that (effectively) put the ame out of reach. He wasn't even trying, at the most important part of the last game of the season. Get him off the team.

It would be nice in my lifetime to see a Jazz team with two starting big men who can both guard the pick and roll. Haven't seen it so far (but I've only been watching the Jazz for 8 years), maybe you should give it a try KOC.

Al's pick-and-roll defense was indeed, as it always has been, unforgivably atrocious. But it was also Millsap's careless offensive foul that gave SA the ball back when we had a chance to tie it.

I generally find Paul to be a more useful, if less potent, player. But that was a major league choke job by him last night (and by Hayward and several others).

Only guys who came to play were Carroll, Harris, and Favors.

[countrybama24]

I feel like Paul can be at best your 4th best player, probably your 5th best barring having a couple of superstars. He is currently our 2nd or 3rd best. Until we start two bigs who can defend the pick and roll, this team is going no where. Maybe Kanter is that guy, maybe not. But please KOC, let's not waste another year with this charade of a lineup. You did the same thing when dwill was here, since Boozer-Okur was one of the worst starting bigman combos in terms of help defense I've ever seen. Stop being content with being a mediocre playoff team, your fans deserve better than that. The hawks for for f*** sake have been more relevant contenders, since they actually have a prayer of defending someone in crunch time. Just stop wasting our time and trade our older bigs.

[finnegan]

I am a little surprise with how negative a few of the posts are. There were some pretty significant positives to this experience:

1. We saw how Favors could do as a starter.
2. They came back from 21 down and got within 4, and it was actually winable against the probable 2012 NBA champions.

Obviously we need some perimeter defense and perimeter scoring (uhm Wesly Mathews would have been nice), but I am not seeing the playoffs as a disaster like certain others.

[red4hf]

Some of us have been saying that Favors needs to be a starter since the start of the season.......

[The59Sound]

Definitely not a disaster. I was disappointed that we didn't pull out at least one win, but it was a good experience and should positively inform KOC's and Ty's decisions. If we don't make the playoffs, Ty doesn't see Favors step up under major pressure; very likely, that would mean Ty wouldn't be thinking of starting him next season.

May have been "obvious" to a lot of us that Favors should've been starting, but it certainly wasn't obvious to Corbin before this past week.

[reapaman]

I would just like to point out when we were down four, those two Manu threes both were caused by Als pick and roll defense (or lack thereof). He guarded the wrong side of the pick and Manu just went right around the pick collapsing the defense. At least 4 spurs buckets were singularly caused by Als pick and roll defense, probably more, during that 22-0 stretch at the end of the third that (effectively) put the ame out of reach. He wasn't even trying, at the most important part of the last game of the season. Get him off the team.

It would be nice in my lifetime to see a Jazz team with two starting big men who can both guard the pick and roll. Haven't seen it so far (but I've only been watching the Jazz for 8 years), maybe you should give it a try KOC.

I didn't record the game but I was able to re-watch one of the "pick and rolls in questioned" on youtube. It was the one where tiago set the pick on burks and ginnobli shot the wide open three. I disgree that Al did the wrong thing. Had he went to the other side yes your right he could have possibly stopped manu from shooting the wide open three at the end of the 3rd quarter. Now my question to you is who was gonna stop splitter if manu got a pass off too him? Tiago would have been wide open for a higher percentage shot since no one else was near him. Since Al went on that side, it wasn't actually a pick and roll because tiago couldn't actually roll since jefferson was there to stop it. Thats what your suppose to do, stop the picker from getting an easy shot which is what Al did.

And this is my problem with most people on here. Why criticize Jefferson despite all the hard work he put in to keep us in the game yet you don't point out that burks who sucked all series couldve went under the pick and possibly had a better chance of getting a hand in his face? I'm sure some of the other picks weren't as bad as your saying. And why were you not watching Haywards defense? He was atrocious and just hopping around and looking lost.

[StocktonShorts]

Some of us have been saying that Favors needs to be a starter since the start of the season.......

[StocktonShorts]

May have been "obvious" to a lot of us that Favors should've been starting, but it certainly wasn't obvious to Corbin before this past week.

Actually he started the first three games of the season. Corbin moved him to the bench starting with, wait for it... the game against the Spurs on Dec. 31.

[eckles]

I'm a general New York fan, but I love Utah's future talent. Particularly Favors.
you have the best front court in the league hands down. Jefferson possesses the best offensive post moves in the league, big al would work perfectly with a rondo/cp3/nash, just imagine the pick and pop with those point guards and big al. Millsap hustles, good midranger, does all the intangibles, Favors is a blocking machine, a beast defensively, unstoppable when he inserts himself and Kanter has the potential to be a rebounding machine.
You need to re-arrange your backcourt/Wing players. Harris couldn't keep up with parker, outsmarted, outplayed and lacks the leadership to be a playmaker. What you need is a Nash or a Rondo type PG, a spot up SG 3 point shooter who can guard the perimeter and keep up against opposition superstar wing player. Also a SF that can create his own shot and draw fouls.

LOL @ watching manu blow past hayward and burks to setup the pick and roll with duncan/splitter, also pick and pop with bonner/leonard/Jackson.

[The59Sound]

May have been "obvious" to a lot of us that Favors should've been starting, but it certainly wasn't obvious to Corbin before this past week.

Actually he started the first three games of the season. Corbin moved him to the bench starting with, wait for it... the game against the Spurs on Dec. 31.

Ah, yes. I forgot about Ty's "experiment" that he abandoned almost instantly. I generally try to give myself a reality check about how the professionals being paid millions of dollars know better than me... but then I remember that Isaiah Thomas exists, and suddenly fan critiques seem credible again.