Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension

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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#41 » by Paper Face » Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:11 pm

erudite23 wrote:When FA starts, the Jazz will get serious and likely make re-signing him a real priority. Does anyone hear anything about us making an extension offer to Big Al? That should tell you what you need to know.


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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#42 » by reapaman » Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:39 pm

erudite23 wrote:When FA starts, the Jazz will get serious and likely make re-signing him a real priority. Does anyone hear anything about us making an extension offer to Big Al? That should tell you what you need to know.

Or mabey its because extending Big Al at 15 mil would mean almost Lebron money and you can surely resign him cheaper in the offseason. Extending Millsap at 7.2 mil even with a max extension is a bargain compared to what he's likely to get in the offseason. So this tells us nothing.
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Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#43 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:14 am

reapaman wrote:
erudite23 wrote:When FA starts, the Jazz will get serious and likely make re-signing him a real priority. Does anyone hear anything about us making an extension offer to Big Al? That should tell you what you need to know.

Or mabey its because extending Big Al at 15 mil would mean almost Lebron money and you can surely resign him cheaper in the offseason. Extending Millsap at 7.2 mil even with a max extension is a bargain compared to what he's likely to get in the offseason. So this tells us nothing.


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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#44 » by erudite23 » Wed Aug 8, 2012 2:33 pm

reapaman wrote:
erudite23 wrote:When FA starts, the Jazz will get serious and likely make re-signing him a real priority. Does anyone hear anything about us making an extension offer to Big Al? That should tell you what you need to know.

Or mabey its because extending Big Al at 15 mil would mean almost Lebron money and you can surely resign him cheaper in the offseason. Extending Millsap at 7.2 mil even with a max extension is a bargain compared to what he's likely to get in the offseason. So this tells us nothing.


You don't have to extend a player at that rate. You can extend them for less, you just can't extend them for more than an allotted amount. And even so, Millsap was never going to accept that offer, and Big Al isn't going to be signing for any less than a minimum of 13m per season. Thus we can deduce that a) this was not a valid attempt to re-sign Millsap but rather a formality and b) if they were interested in retaining Big Al long term, they would likely be making some sort of overture towards an extension (which, granted, might be happening and we don't know it, but considering that we are hearing about Sap its reasonable to assume we'd also hear about Al).

That doesn't even count the crazy stuff that happens during the signing period. Marc Gasol just got near max money. So did Tyson Chandler. Hibbert got the max. Amare got 100m. Boozer got 15m. Quality bigs in their prime will always go for a premium. The chances of re-signing Al for less than 15m per season once he hits the open market is basically zero. If the Jazz wanted to keep him, REALLY wanted to keep him, the best tactic would be to keep him off the market and make the best deal possible. That would make him happiest and it would likely give us the most favorable terms we're likely to get.

I think it actually tells the real story.
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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#45 » by reapaman » Thu Aug 9, 2012 1:53 pm

My fault, I didn't know the extension rules. I still think the jazz were saying it couldn't hurt to try and if by some miracle he take the extension, he is a super trade asset. Either way I think they are both gone unless KOC plans on trading Kanter then he may keep one of them. I mean how do you justify paying what will likely be starters money (both jefferson and Millsap will probley get around 10 + mil) to a guy that wants to start and either not start him or have him start in front of Kanter for more years who was the #3 pick in the draft. Depending on what Jefferson or Millsap new contract will be, they may be to hard to trade and get anything good back. Plus you can't expect Kanter at his age to beat out two guys that are in their prime. The #3 pick can't be a backup in his 3rd, 4th or even 5th year depending how long Jefferson/Millsap new contract will be. I even won't accept that and you know how I feel about Kanter.

Mabey theres a Big Al deal going on behind the scenes because remember its not as simple as the Millsap extension since all you had to do with that was offer him the max which is a bargain for the Jazz, no negotiating or conversations with Millsap's agent or Millsap himself needed. With Big AL you have to actually negotiate to get a good deal which as we all know from contract talks with past players, is a long and annoying process. So it could be going on due to how secrative the Jazz are.
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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#46 » by countrybama24 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:31 pm

Also looks like we pulled out of Ryan Anderson talks because they wanted Millsap.

I like that we were involved, being proactive. I'm kinda done with soft, no defense stretch bigs after Okur, but he would have been useful. If we end up getting more for Millsap than Anderson, I'd say we did pretty well. If we get him extended, even better.
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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#47 » by Jefff » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:33 am

offer a 25 mill extension for millsap was a safe call. Next year he can try to find something around 30 mill, not a lot more.
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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#48 » by outerspacefella » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:39 am

I think Jazz' brass feels they need to watch Favors and Kanter developement a little bit more.
If they were sold on these two they probably would have pull the trigger for Anderson... of course just a hunch...
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Re: Millsap aims for 2013 Free Agency rather than extension 

Post#49 » by qman » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:31 pm

In the end I think we will end up with Favors-Kanter-Millsap-another big with center size- Evans as the energy guy. I think that our scoring is going to come from Hayward and Burks in future. That will make big man defense more important and Al's scoring less important.
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