Bulls to amnesty Boozer (at some point in the future perhaps

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Bulls to amnesty Boozer (at some point in the future perhaps 

Post#1 » by QuantumMacgyver » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:03 pm

Recent reports claim that the Bulls are preparing to amnesty Boozer. Just further supports the theory that Big AL was an improvement.

What team claims him off waivers? My money is on Houston. Hopefully IF the Jazz do trade Millsap, that same team picks up Boozer and starts Millsap over him. Haha

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Re: Bulls to amnesty Boozer 

Post#2 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:29 pm

I read it as speculation that they'd EVENTUALLY amnesty Boozer.
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Post#3 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:52 pm

The fact that it got to the point where this is even discussed is a huge failure of the Bulls and Thibodeau. Everyone knew the type of player Boozer is - he is a great PnR and PnP player, great defensive rebounder, great touch around the rim, and great hands. Everybody knew defense isn't his strong suit. He has a body of work and it was clear how to utilize him, yet they signed him to a big and long contract and didn't do that. They relied heavily on Rose (who also shares some of the blame), and then complained they are too depended on him and that he needs help. They didn't integrate Boozer in the offense enough, didn't run the right plays for him, reduced his involvement on offense and expected he would transform into a good defensive player for some reason. He is a good player how is not utilized correctly (or enough), and now they want to amnesty him instead of adjusting the offense now that Rose is out so that they could find a way to play in a manner that includes other players more, so that when Rose comes back he wouldn't have to carry the offense all by himself again.
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Post#4 » by QuantumMacgyver » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:55 pm

I hardly think the Coach of the Year AND previous MVP should be catering to Carlos Boozer.
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Post#5 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:56 am

well, we all saw what happened when they didn't. Rose got very little help and had to take 20+ shots a game at the playoffs two seasons ago, and all through that playoffs all we heard is that they need other players to step up and relieve some of the pressure from Rose. So guess what - the ball is in Rose's hands, and it is the coach who decides how they play, so those two have only themselves to blame that Rose didn't get enough help, especially from Boozer who doesn't have the ball and needs to be used the right way. And benching him for not playing good enough defense - it is not like he it is his first year. His defense is well known, expecting him to suddenly be a good defensive player AFTER you gave him 15M, well... you have only yourself to blame. It's like they expected him to transform into a different player than he is, all the while not exploiting and using the parts of his game that made him a good NBA player.
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Re: Bulls to amnesty Boozer (at some point in the future per 

Post#6 » by reapaman » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:27 am

Boozer is making way too much money for them to have to "use him correctly" for him to be effective. They should be able to just throw him out there and he should just get buckets. Even tho rose was hogging the ball, boozer still got enough touches to do that but he kept missing open shots.

With that said shame on the bulls for not realizing boozers short coming before they signed him and shame on boozer for being a true Loozer. Jefferson > Loozer.
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Re: Bulls to amnesty Boozer (at some point in the future per 

Post#7 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:46 am

Boozer is making way too much money for them to have to "use him correctly" for him to be effective. They should be able to just throw him out there and he should just get buckets.


This is exactly the kind of thinking and reasoning that got the Bulls into this mess in the first place. The fact that you throw money at a guy doesn't mean that he will somehow magically develop skills that he didn't have before. Boozer isn't great in creating offense to himself - he needs a partner to initiate a PnR and a PnP plays that he (Boozer) will finish - and he does that very well. But the Bulls didn't and still don't play to these strengths. If they expected that they will just throw him the ball in a half court set and watch him create offense for himself like that quote above me - that is the reason for their woes and his performance - they had 8 seasons to watch him play and realize that is not his strength.

According to your reasoning, they should also have expected Ben Wallace to score 20 ppg because they were paying him 15M a year (another awful signing). For that kind of money, "they should be able to just throw him out there and he should just get buckets".

No, that kind of thinking doesn't work. Veteran players are who they are, and just because you give them a large contract doesn't mean that all of a sudden they will be able to do things they were not able to do before and completely change their game. In most cases, it is just not a realistic expectation, and one that the Bulls are paying for now.
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Re: Bulls to amnesty Boozer (at some point in the future per 

Post#8 » by Paper Face » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:53 pm

Carlos is magical.
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