Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21)

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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#21 » by Spottieottie » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:34 am

Cool, Kanter got 5 minutes.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#22 » by Blackie » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:36 am

RyanStorm wrote:I can't believe they put Watson in clutch....Burks was doing way better....he can actually drive the lane...whens the last time Watson drawed a foul. Zone doesn't work with Burks cause he can draw defenders.

Burks 14 mins 8pt, 5/6 FT and 1 3pt, 1ast, 1stl, and 1pf.
Watson 25 mins 1pt 1/2 FT and 0/2 FG, 5ast, 5 reb, 4pf and actually has no TO's.


But still, Big Al and Millsap really gave us the points we need combined 47, Marivn + Foye for 25, and then Favors, Kanter and Burks combined for 25, and on top we got 4 from carroll, 1 from watson and 2 from tinsley. Honestly I can't remember the last time Foye and Marvin had 10+ each. Biggest game for Marvin in a long time, I truely hope he is out of his rut.

Favors and Burks in the teens, putting 20+ a night make us win everytime, especially if Hayward is also shooting around 15 a night. Kanter didn't get minutes but 4 minutes, 2pt and 2 rebounds..not bad...although 1 TO and PF.

Everyone did exactly what we needed to win...any less would have lost this, plus were lucky Eric Gordon was out. Favors seriously stepped up to take over Haywards 15 points, then burks stepped up to take Favors points, and then starters made enough to give us that cushion.


I totally agree.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#23 » by RyanStorm » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:14 am

Kanter is half/half. He has half, he has the ability but still lacks the skills to execute like Jefferson. He has good IQ and is learning but is really rough on the edges, mostly TO's and inability to pass. I say give him another year with plenty of minutes and he will be tuned to be our future center, he has what Jefferson doesn't, and if he learns Jefferson's shooting skills, we will be set.


Not to sound like a dick, but I kind of hope Watson is hurt, and is out for awhile, so burks can take over full time 2nd unit back court's PG.

I just think everyone plays great when around Burks. He can do what Watson and Tinsley can do, but is a younger and faster, who has the energy to run the court all night. The Pelican's PG, ran circles around tins/wats and drove the lane all night cause they are too old and slow. Burks also has everything that they lack, and then more!

You give him some more set minutes and he might turn into a Westbrook...ish...for all we know he will be our future PG. Burks just needs a real role, not this "low random games/minutes crap". Watson wakes up and knows what he is doing tonight, Burks needs this to go the next level.

We don't need 1 old guy out there just to walk the ball across the court and try and be a floor coach(which is what Watson thinks he is, one on the starters is enough, we don't need one on the bench), burks can do that just as good, he actually has the IQ to do what is needed, Tinsely and watson slacked in trying to expand their game(can't teach an old dog new tricks). There is only a few things Burks needs to learn to be our PG. I bet if he was trained to be our PG, he would be ready by playoffs, especially with Tins and Wats training him.


Also for anyone who thinks Foye is 1 dimensional, how about 8 assists!! He is definitely way better than Korver, Korver can't do crap besides shoot the 3pt. He can't open up Jefferson and give him easy buckets. Foye is one piece we can't afford to lose...were not going back to not having no 3pt makers. I just wish Marvin was working like he was tonight, but every night, but also making 3pt's like he did last year.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#24 » by babyjax13 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:02 am

I've just gotta say, Vasquez is fun as hell to watch. I think I'd trade anyone outside of Favors to get him. Actually, the thought of him and Favors on the same team just makes me drool...
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#25 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:58 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I've just gotta say, Vasquez is fun as hell to watch. I think I'd trade anyone outside of Favors to get him. Actually, the thought of him and Favors on the same team just makes me drool...


Vazquez is improving, but it is not surprising that he had a near career night against the Jazz backcourt.

Carter-Williams could be an improved Vazquez (perhaps what everyone thought Tyreke would become). If so, the possiblity of drafting him makes me drool, and getting rid of our vets sooner and possibly falling into the lottery seems appealing to me at this point.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#26 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:58 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I've just gotta say, Vasquez is fun as hell to watch. I think I'd trade anyone outside of Favors to get him. Actually, the thought of him and Favors on the same team just makes me drool...


Vazquez is improving, but it is not surprising that he had a near career night against the Jazz backcourt.

Carter-Williams could be an improved Vazquez (perhaps what everyone thought Tyreke would become). If so, the possiblity of drafting him makes me drool, and getting rid of our vets sooner and possibly falling into the lottery seems appealing to me at this point.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#27 » by slcjosh » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:27 pm

RyanStorm wrote:I love watching Favors and Kanter, but Big Al and Millsap are lame, and I am barely tolerating Marvin, even though I really hate him.

Carroll is tough, and actually does something, but he still needs to get a better shot. Foye is the only dependent 3pt shooter on this team right now, outside of Hayward.

I bet dollar to donouts, you start our core 4 with Carroll and they would do a way better job than these starters. That way these starters could face easier opponents, to make it easier for them so they can actually look like a real unit.


I don't think the core four would be above 500. i have seen too many games where the second unit is completely incapable of scoring. that's not a very successful formula. In the future when their games are all developed, you could be right. but as of now, they would get smoked night in and night out.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#28 » by StocktonShorts » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:43 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:I've just gotta say, Vasquez is fun as hell to watch. I think I'd trade anyone outside of Favors to get him. Actually, the thought of him and Favors on the same team just makes me drool...


Vazquez is improving, but it is not surprising that he had a near career night against the Jazz backcourt.


If Vasquez's "near career night" sees him shoot 8-21 and 0-4 from three then he's not as good as some people here think he is.
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Re: Game 46: New Orleans Hornets (15-30) @ Utah Jazz (24-21) 

Post#29 » by The59Sound » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:46 pm

Seems to me the only time we run an offense lately is with the second unit out there (Hayward in particular). Feels like every other play from the starters is: circle the perimeter, then wait for Al or Millsap to become available 15-18 feet from the hoop, so they can turn and face up.
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