NBA 2020 Draft Prospects Thread

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Nwora is still my top choice but Vassel is right there. After them I'm thinking Jalen Smith and Saddiq Bey

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You can just see that Vassel is going to be a top defensive wing. For a team like ours that desperately needs perimeter defense he would be an ideal fit. I love what we can do offensively but we really need another perimeter defender more than anything.

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Nwora is still my top choice but Vassel is right there. After them I'm thinking Jalen Smith and Saddiq Bey

Watch on YouTube

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You can just see that Vassel is going to be a top defensive wing. For a team like ours that desperately needs perimeter defense he would be an ideal fit. I love what we can do offensively but we really need another perimeter defender more than anything.

Here's the thing with Vassell offensively--I think he can be like Devin Booker. I think he could have nights where he can go off for 35 or 40 points. I love his confidence shooting off the catch, and I love his ability to find space off the dribble in mid-range. He shot over 41% from 3pt both as a freshman and sophomore. He'd be great in Quin's system.

The only problem I see is that he's going to get drafted in the 10 - 15 range.

Given how screwed up the playoffs are going to be, and how there's not going to be any homecourt advantage, I'd like to see the Jazz drop a couple spots in the standings to improve our draft position. But even still, I'm not sure how we could trade up to take Vassell.

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Most draft I would strongly consider that but the top of this draft is so damn weak compared to other drafts. I wish I could have seen more of Wiseman but if I had to lean toward anyone with a top pick I would probably go Ball. His game is built for this current brand of the nba and if he is a legit 6'6" or 6'7" now then he will be impossible to guard.

Ball is interesting. But all say this for Wiseman. He is huge, he has great hands, and excellent coordination. Even if he is dumb as a rock, his downside (imo) is Hassan Whiteside.

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Most draft I would strongly consider that but the top of this draft is so damn weak compared to other drafts. I wish I could have seen more of Wiseman but if I had to lean toward anyone with a top pick I would probably go Ball. His game is built for this current brand of the nba and if he is a legit 6'6" or 6'7" now then he will be impossible to guard.

Ball is interesting. But all say this for Wiseman. He is huge, he has great hands, and excellent coordination. Even if he is dumb as a rock, his downside (imo) is Hassan Whiteside.

I watched Whiteside a lot back in 2013 before that draft. Wiseman is more athletic and plays harder than Whiteside. I think Wiseman is going to be comparable to Deandre Jordan. He probably doesn't have the defensive instincts, timing and competitive drive that Rudy has though.

If the Jazz trade Rudy, the real reason will be because they don't want to go over the max to re-sign him, and because he has some offensive limitations. I don't think it will be the locker room issues. A bunch of players in the league have covid19--3 Lakers, 4 Nets, etc.

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Leandro Bolmaro is one of the guys I think I've narrowed in on. Just looks way too skilled not to be good in the NBA, but needs to develop his jumper.

A 6'8" wing with a handle, advanced passing and the ability to get downhill is a very valuable player. I think Quin loves that type of player.

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You can just see that Vassel is going to be a top defensive wing. For a team like ours that desperately needs perimeter defense he would be an ideal fit. I love what we can do offensively but we really need another perimeter defender more than anything.

Here's the thing with Vassell offensively--I think he can be like Devin Booker. I think he could have nights where he can go off for 35 or 40 points. I love his confidence shooting off the catch, and I love his ability to find space off the dribble in mid-range. He shot over 41% from 3pt both as a freshman and sophomore. He'd be great in Quin's system.

The only problem I see is that he's going to get drafted in the 10 - 15 range.

Given how screwed up the playoffs are going to be, and how there's not going to be any homecourt advantage, I'd like to see the Jazz drop a couple spots in the standings to improve our draft position. But even still, I'm not sure how we could trade up to take Vassell.

I don't see him being anything like Booker offensively. I see him more in the OG Anunoby type of player that we see with the raptors. The type of guy that probably maxes out in that 16 to 18 point a game range.

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You can just see that Vassel is going to be a top defensive wing. For a team like ours that desperately needs perimeter defense he would be an ideal fit. I love what we can do offensively but we really need another perimeter defender more than anything.

Here's the thing with Vassell offensively--I think he can be like Devin Booker. I think he could have nights where he can go off for 35 or 40 points. I love his confidence shooting off the catch, and I love his ability to find space off the dribble in mid-range. He shot over 41% from 3pt both as a freshman and sophomore. He'd be great in Quin's system.

The only problem I see is that he's going to get drafted in the 10 - 15 range.

Given how screwed up the playoffs are going to be, and how there's not going to be any homecourt advantage, I'd like to see the Jazz drop a couple spots in the standings to improve our draft position. But even still, I'm not sure how we could trade up to take Vassell.

I don't see him being anything like Booker offensively. I see him more in the OG Anunoby type of player that we see with the raptors. The type of guy that probably maxes out in that 16 to 18 point a game range.

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Yeah, I'm not saying he'd average over 30, but I think he's going to be a legit scorer. I could see him average 17 or 18 ppg by his 3rd or 4th year, with the potential to be a 20+ point scorer.

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This is the year I've watched the least college basketball since forever so forgive my ignorance. My scouting right now consists of watching highlight clips so take that for what it's worth...

What do you guys think of Aaron Nesmith from Vanderbilt? He seems like a sharpshooter on the wing. How is his defense? Can he be a 3&D wing?

Nwora seems to still be in our range from what I see in a couple of mocks? His defensive numbers don't seem great, though... can he defend?

Ochai Agbaji seems like an athletic freak with some defensive potential, but his shooting projection doesn't look great. Does he have any fans here?

CJ Elleby?

Devin Vassell?

Check out Paul Reed. If Brantley is the Zion of the Colonial League, Reed is the Siakam of the big east.

I think Paul Reed's role projects as a richer version of Kevon Looney. He's clearly better than Looney, but he'd be a backup 4 or small ball 5 who defends, rebounds and does some complementary scoring. I wonder if his shot will translate to the NBA 3. His defense will get him on the floor. I wouldn't compare him to Siakam, as he's not as fluid or capable with the ball outside the post, imo.

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Here's the thing with Vassell offensively--I think he can be like Devin Booker. I think he could have nights where he can go off for 35 or 40 points. I love his confidence shooting off the catch, and I love his ability to find space off the dribble in mid-range. He shot over 41% from 3pt both as a freshman and sophomore. He'd be great in Quin's system.

The only problem I see is that he's going to get drafted in the 10 - 15 range.

Given how screwed up the playoffs are going to be, and how there's not going to be any homecourt advantage, I'd like to see the Jazz drop a couple spots in the standings to improve our draft position. But even still, I'm not sure how we could trade up to take Vassell.

I don't see him being anything like Booker offensively. I see him more in the OG Anunoby type of player that we see with the raptors. The type of guy that probably maxes out in that 16 to 18 point a game range.

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Yeah, I'm not saying he'd average over 30, but I think he's going to be a legit scorer. I could see him average 17 or 18 ppg by his 3rd or 4th year, with the potential to be a 20+ point scorer.

Honestly I don't see that. I see something like Otto Porter with less of an inside game on offense being his upside. He has not shot at incredibly high volume, and his release is not incredibly fast, and he really doesn't handle the ball. I still think he is going to be a rotation player, but I don't think he's Booker.

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I don't see him being anything like Booker offensively. I see him more in the OG Anunoby type of player that we see with the raptors. The type of guy that probably maxes out in that 16 to 18 point a game range.

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Yeah, I'm not saying he'd average over 30, but I think he's going to be a legit scorer. I could see him average 17 or 18 ppg by his 3rd or 4th year, with the potential to be a 20+ point scorer.

Honestly I don't see that. I see something like Otto Porter with less of an inside game on offense being his upside. He has not shot at incredibly high volume, and his release is not incredibly fast, and he really doesn't handle the ball. I still think he is going to be a rotation player, but I don't think he's Booker.

Do you remember what Devin Booker looked like when he was coming off the bench at UK and averaging 10/2/1? Vassell has shown more handle, body control, shooting off the dribble, finishing at the rim, etc. Now granted, DBook was only 18 at the time.

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Hope we get to keep our pick (most likely outcome), this looks like a great year for point guards. I like Killian Hayes. Reminds me of Shai, he just moves very deliberately. I also like Tre Jones, but I don't think he's as good a fit for our team. Curious about Tyrese Haliburton as well. Theo Malidon is way above us, but he is likewise intriguing. Basically, there seems to be some bigger 1's that might make good fits down the road, and there is a good chance of nice talent dropping to us.

No more Treys. Tres count too.

So I'm noticing that Tre Jones is bigger and markedly better than his brother Tyus. He looks like he could be a legit starter, assuming he's athletic enough to compete with pros.

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Yeah, I'm not saying he'd average over 30, but I think he's going to be a legit scorer. I could see him average 17 or 18 ppg by his 3rd or 4th year, with the potential to be a 20+ point scorer.

Honestly I don't see that. I see something like Otto Porter with less of an inside game on offense being his upside. He has not shot at incredibly high volume, and his release is not incredibly fast, and he really doesn't handle the ball. I still think he is going to be a rotation player, but I don't think he's Booker.

Do you remember what Devin Booker looked like when he was coming off the bench at UK and averaging 10/2/1? Vassell has shown more handle, body control, shooting off the dribble, finishing at the rim, etc. Now granted, DBook was only 18 at the time.

I know what he looked like, and he had shown much better ballhandling in high school and was relegated to spot up shooter on probably the most stacked college basketball team ever.

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How would you guys rank the following players as prospects for the Jazz?

a) Theo Maledon
b) Tre Jones
c) Leandro Bolmaro
d) Tyrese Maxey
e) Josh Green

[babyjax13]

How would you guys rank the following players as prospects for the Jazz?

a) Theo Maledon
b) Tre Jones
c) Leandro Bolmaro
d) Tyrese Maxey
e) Josh Green

1. Bolmaro
2. Maxey
3. Green
4. Maledon
5. Jones

But I like all of them, and think it's close all the way around. Good group to pick out.

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How would you guys rank the following players as prospects for the Jazz?

a) Theo Maledon
b) Tre Jones
c) Leandro Bolmaro
d) Tyrese Maxey
e) Josh Green

1. Bolmaro
2. Maxey
3. Green
4. Maledon
5. Jones

But I like all of them, and think it's close all the way around. Good group to pick out.

I've only watched Maxey a bit so far. He plays a bit like Coby White, but somehow wasn't as efficient offensively this year. A lot of draftwatchers really like him though.

I agree with you that Bolmaro could be a steal.

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Nice video on Bolmaro. He's 6'7" with a 6'8" wingspan (like Gordon Hayward), and some of his floor vision and passing is reminiscent of Ricky Rubio.

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[babyjax13]

Nice video on Bolmaro. He's 6'7" with a 6'8" wingspan (like Gordon Hayward), and some of his floor vision and passing is reminiscent of Ricky Rubio.

Watch on YouTube

I really am in love with him as a prospect, lol. Kind of feels like a weird hybrid between Manu Ginobili and Joe Ingles in the way he plays. He lacks lift/explosiveness, but he is also rail thin and I think his body will fill out a bit and he will become a better, albeit not great athlete (think he will be closer to Joe than to Hayward). But, a lot of the things he does on the court just seem crazy. I'm a believer that a player that can absolutely control the pace of the game for stretches is a good candidate to succeed at the next level. Bolmaro seems like he might do that (idk since I'm just watching clips). Coby White did it, Lonzo Ball did it, Tyrese Haliburton does it...loved all of those prospects (recently) and White looked really good to end the year, and Lonzo has been solid. I think if you can get a player who flashes that potential this late in the draft, you have to go for it. I'd say Bolmaro is top 10 on my big board (which does not exist yet) for this year. Actually, here is a quick and dirty one:

1) James Wiseman
2) LaMelo Ball
3) Deni Advija
4) RJ Hampton
5) Anthony Edwards
6) Obi Toppin
7) Tyrese Haliburton
8) Isaac Okoro
9) LeAndro Bolmaro
10) Cole Anthony
11) Killian Hayes
12) Devin Vassell
13) Aaron Nesmith
14) Aleksej Pokuševski
15) Onyeka Okongwu

I actually like this draft a lot. Outside there not being a clear #1 pick, I think there is some excellent depth, particularly at point guard.

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Nice video on Bolmaro. He's 6'7" with a 6'8" wingspan (like Gordon Hayward), and some of his floor vision and passing is reminiscent of Ricky Rubio.

Watch on YouTube

I really am in love with him as a prospect, lol. Kind of feels like a weird hybrid between Manu Ginobili and Joe Ingles in the way he plays. He lacks lift/explosiveness, but he is also rail thin and I think his body will fill out a bit and he will become a better, albeit not great athlete (think he will be closer to Joe than to Hayward). But, a lot of the things he does on the court just seem crazy. I'm a believer that a player that can absolutely control the pace of the game for stretches is a good candidate to succeed at the next level. Bolmaro seems like he might do that (idk since I'm just watching clips). Coby White did it, Lonzo Ball did it, Tyrese Haliburton does it...loved all of those prospects (recently) and White looked really good to end the year, and Lonzo has been solid. I think if you can get a player who flashes that potential this late in the draft, you have to go for it. I'd say Bolmaro is top 10 on my big board (which does not exist yet) for this year. Actually, here is a quick and dirty one:

1) James Wiseman
2) LaMelo Ball
3) Deni Advija
4) RJ Hampton
5) Anthony Edwards
6) Obi Toppin
7) Tyrese Haliburton
8) Isaac Okoro
9) LeAndro Bolmaro
10) Cole Anthony
11) Killian Hayes
12) Devin Vassell
13) Aaron Nesmith
14) Aleksej Pokuševski
15) Onyeka Okongwu

I actually like this draft a lot. Outside there not being a clear #1 pick, I think there is some excellent depth, particularly at point guard.

Bolmaro is a good horizontal athlete. By that I mean that he runs the floor well, moves well laterally and has subtle timing and body control. He moves his feet well. You can see it in his defense. It wouldn't surprise me if he played soccer growing up. I actually think this 'horizontal' athleticism is more important than vertical athleticism (think Steve Nash). I've also heard conflicting reports about his size and weight. The Euroleague is listing him at 6'8" and he likely put on some weight in the past year. He's probably at least 190 lbs.

I'm starting to worry that he'll get drafted in the top 20.

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I'm still moving guys around, but my Big Board for the Jazz would look more or less like this:

1 Anthony Edwards
2 James Wiseman
3 Deni Avdija
4 Obi Toppin
5 Killian Hayes

6 Isaac Okoro
7 Lamelo Ball
8 RJ Hampton
9 Cole Anthony
10 Onyeka Okongwu

11 Tyrese Halliburton
12 Jaden McDaniels
13 Devin Vassell
14 Leandro Bolmaro
15 Theo Maledon

All these guys have the ability to change who the Jazz are. Then the next 5 guys would probably be:

16 Aaron Nesmith
17 Jahim’us Ramsey
18 Jalen Smith
19 Tyrese Maxey
20 Saddiq Bey/Patrick Williams

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I'll give credit to BabyJax, but I think Bolmaro is our guy. He's like a mashup of Gordon Hayward and Ricky Rubio. He plays hard. He has some international flair that will complement Donovan Mitchell's stardom. He's a Jazzman.

A year from now when Conley's deal is up and Ingles is turning 34, he'll be 6'8" / 205 lbs and ready to help run the show.

Put me on Bolmaro island if we draft in the 20s.