NBA Draft - 2021 Draft Prospects

Catchall · Post #101 » by **Catchall** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:30 am

Here's JT Thor from Auburn. Really nice 3D big. Start Mitchell and Royce in the backcourt. Play Bogey at the 3. Play Thor at the 4 and Gobert at the 5. Size, toughness and defense are solved. Bring Conley, Clarkson, Ingles and Favors off the bench.

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babyjax13 · Post #102 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:52 am

Catchall wrote:Here's Trey Murphy from Virginia. Comps favorably with Khris Middleton.

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I see more Marvin Williams, but I loved Marvin. Think Trey Murphy will be out of our range but could see us move up a few spots.

Catchall · Post #103 » by **Catchall** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:55 pm

I think I'm in on Roko Prkacin. He's participating in the NBA Combine this week, so we'll know more about his measurables.

I say this every year, but..... the NBA as a league is dominated by the 6'8" / 220-lb. triple-threat wing. The reason is because they can do everything. They can defend multiple positions, grab a rebound, drive the ball, get to the rim, get an open look from 3pt, get a look from mid-range, and get in the key and make almost any pass on the floor. The game is just made for this type of player.

Look at Gordon Hayward. His dribble was pretty basic. His first step was pretty average. He was a good shooter, not a great shooter. He was a good passer, not a great passer. He could get to the rim, but he wasn't a skywalker. But Hayward impacted every play because he was that prototypical 6'8" / 220-lb wing with ball skills.

The Jazz haven't had that since Hayward left, and that's the guy I'd want to put on the floor between Mitchell and Gobert. Right now, Ingles is kind of a middling imitation of that player. The Jazz need a real one if they want to make the Finals.

I think it's possible for Prkacin to become that kind of Gallinari-like big wing. I think he has the physical talent. It just needs to be developed more. The key is his shooting and playing in pick-and-roll.

stitches · Post #104 » by **stitches** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:55 pm

Anybody watching the GLeague Elite camp?

Catchall · Post #105 » by **Catchall** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:57 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Here's Trey Murphy from Virginia. Comps favorably with Khris Middleton.

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I see more Marvin Williams, but I loved Marvin. Think Trey Murphy will be out of our range but could see us move up a few spots.

I was comparing Murphy to Khris Middleton the 21 year-old junior entering the draft, not the All Star version of today.

babyjax13 · Post #106 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:54 pm

Catchall wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Here's Trey Murphy from Virginia. Comps favorably with Khris Middleton.

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I see more Marvin Williams, but I loved Marvin. Think Trey Murphy will be out of our range but could see us move up a few spots.

I was comparing Murphy to Khris Middleton the 21 year-old junior entering the draft, not the All Star version of today.

Middleton was a nice ball handler and initiator even in college. Obviously not what he is now, but I don't see much of that with Murphy.

Catchall · Post #107 » by **Catchall** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:03 am

Marcus Bagley has physical tools. Mental tools, who knows? I feel like Trey Murphy may be passing him in the draft order.

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Catchall · Post #108 » by **Catchall** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:10 am

I might be in on Ayo Dosunmu. I've got Mann, Springer and Dosunmu on the shortlist of guards for the Jazz.

Post #109 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:19 am

stitches wrote:Anybody watching the GLeague Elite camp?

We all did. The Jazz lost to the Clippers in 6 games. 8-)

Catchall · Post #110 » by **Catchall** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:51 pm

Draft probably shakes out like this ---

For wings, I like Roko, Thor, Murphy and am on the fence with Bagley.
For guards, I like Mann, Springer and am on the fence with Dosunmu.
Sleeper picks would be Filip Petrusev and Isaiah Todd, but I think they're probably 2nd rounders.

Cade Cunningham
Evan Mobley
Jalen Green
Jalen Suggs
Scottie Barnes

Jonathon Kuminga
Keon Johnson
Kai Jones
Jalen Johnson
Alperen Sengun

James Bouknight
Moses Moody
Josh Giddey
Davion Mitchell
Franz Wagner

Isaiah Jackson
Corey Kispert
Tre Mann
Chris Duarte
Ziaire Williams

Roko Prkacin
JT Thor
Jaden Springer
Trey Murphy
Sharife Cooper

Ayo Dosunmu
Marcus Bagley
Jared Butler
Cam Thomas
Greg Brown

Josh Christopher
Isaiah Todd
Filip Petrusev
Joel Ayayi
Brandon Boston

Catchall · Post #111 » by **Catchall** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:03 pm

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babyjax13 · Post #112 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:52 pm

I kind of like Wieskamp. I thought he was the best player at Iowa and he just had some pretty great measurements at the combine.

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sip · Post #113 » by **sip** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:28 am

babyjax13 wrote:I kind of like Wieskamp. I thought he was the best player at Iowa and he just had some pretty great measurements at the combine.

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If he is there at 30 then we can't pass on him. If I'm the jazz I'm doing everything I can to snag Mann, Wieskamp and Bagley. All 3 of them. The two teams to talk to are obviously the rockets and thunder. The thunder have 5 picks in the top 36 and I doubt they use more than 3 of them.

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Catchall · Post #114 » by **Catchall** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:12 am

Jazz will need to take a hard look at Brandon Boston from UK. He was a top-7 recruit coming out of high school and had a mediocre freshman season. He was recruited by UK, Duke, Auburn and Florida. In some ways, his situation is a bit similar to Jaden McDaniels' last year. Boston is a 6'6" / 190-lb wing with some handle, wiggle and touch. He can score in a variety of ways and also break the paint and make a play with the pass. Defensively, he has some length and good anticipation in passing lanes.

If the Jazz believe in their development program, this guy may be worth taking a swing on. We'd have him for 4 years on late-1st rookie-scale. Not sure we'd have a chance to draft anyone more dynamic at #30.

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stitches · Post #115 » by **stitches** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:22 am

Alperen Sengun, Beskitas looks great. Damn it! How do I go from "Don't draft back up centers" to "Go draft Sengun" now? Incredibly skilled, athletic... fluid with ball in his hands. Doesn't shoot 3s but shoots 80% from FT so an NBA team might like the potential there. No idea about his defense.

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babyjax13 · Post #116 » by **babyjax13** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:47 am

Sengun is going lottery, and yes, he is very, very impressive. If we did draft a backup center, my god Jericho Simms will immediately be the most explosive center in the league.

Two interesting guys:
(1) Jason Preston: looked kinda slow in college but looked really athletic at the combine playing in 3:3 drills.
(2) Delano Banton: moves a lot like Boston, but has a super interesting skillset in terms of passing.

Catchall · Post #117 » by **Catchall** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:58 am

Bones Hyland says he's worked out for the Jazz.
Jazz have reportedly interviewed Miles McBride.
Jazz have also reportedly shown interest in Tyson Etienne, a 6'2" guard from Wichita State, and are trying to schedule a workout.

babyjax13 · Post #118 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:15 am

So...small combo guards, that is who we are bringing in. To be fair, I think McBride and Hyland have a great chance of both being steals in the draft, so I don't hate it if you feel either is BPA, but I'm not sure either is a great long-term fit next to Mitchell. No idea about Etienne.

Catchall · Post #119 » by **Catchall** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:07 pm

Catchall wrote:Vrens Bleijenbergh is a young, 6'10" wing from Belgium who is draft-eligible in 2021. He's physically underdeveloped at around 180 lbs right now, but he shows an ability to handle and create shots for himself and others, including creating in pick-and-roll. An interesting prospect, though probably a couple years away from making a significant contribution.

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Bleijenberg is reportedly 6'10" / 208 lbs with a 7'2" wingspan. Still only 20 y.o., I think. I'd be on board with him at #30. I think Springer, Murphy and Thor are likely to be gone by then.

FWIW, I would bet the Jazz could swing a deal with Houston for one of their picks in the 20s. Jazz would probably move Azubuike + #30 (or a future 2nd) to move up to #23.

CAE15 · Post #120 » by **CAE15** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:05 pm

Catchall wrote:
Catchall wrote:Vrens Bleijenbergh is a young, 6'10" wing from Belgium who is draft-eligible in 2021. He's physically underdeveloped at around 180 lbs right now, but he shows an ability to handle and create shots for himself and others, including creating in pick-and-roll. An interesting prospect, though probably a couple years away from making a significant contribution.

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Bleijenberg is reportedly 6'10" / 208 lbs with a 7'2" wingspan. Still only 20 y.o., I think. I'd be on board with him at #30. I think Springer, Murphy and Thor are likely to be gone by then.

FWIW, I would bet the Jazz could swing a deal with Houston for one of their picks in the 20s. Jazz would probably move Azubuike + #30 (or a future 2nd) to move up to #23.

Azubuike according to the jazz was the 2nd player in the entire draft on their board. If true. I find it hard to believe they dump him to move up 7 spots.