2023 Trade Rumors

[Inigo Montoya]

A full episode only about the Jazz:

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[Vox Populi]

I want to see Dyson Daniels and Josh Giddey on the Jazz, without giving up any of the guys below. Danny Ainge easily has the assets to pull it off.

Giddey, Agbaji, Daniels, Lauri, Kessler // Vanderbilt

1st team since the 2000s Pistons to win the title without a superstar?

[Inigo Montoya]

I would love to have Giddy on the Jazz. I also like Daniels but I think both of them together is overkill and will yield diminishing returns. I would be happy if we managed to get either one.

[Vox Populi]

I would love to have Giddy on the Jazz. I also like Daniels but I think both of them together is overkill and will yield diminishing returns. I would be happy if we managed to get either one.

Do you mean overkill and diminishing returns because they are both playmakers? I guess that is something to think about. A team can not have enough playmakers these days though. Dyson is a secondary playmaker at SF, not a primary. He looks like a Mikal Bridges type on defense, with his playmaking being a bonus. That is a valuable archetype at SF, whether to keep or trade later. Giddey is the primary playmaker at PG. Those two and Lauri should make for some top level team basketball. All three don't have superstar egos and won't need superstar contracts either. So Ainge could maintain a deep, quality rotation.

[Inigo Montoya]

I would love to have Giddy on the Jazz. I also like Daniels but I think both of them together is overkill and will yield diminishing returns. I would be happy if we managed to get either one.

Do you mean overkill and diminishing returns because they are both playmakers? I guess that is something to think about. A team can not have enough playmakers these days though. Dyson is a secondary playmaker at SF, not a primary. Dyson looks like he will develop into being a Mikal Bridges type on defense, and his playmaking is a bonus. That is a valuable archetype at SF. Giddey is the primary playmaker at PG. Those two and Lauri should make for some top level team basketball. All three don't have superstar egos and won't need superstar contracts either. So Ainge could maintain a quality rotation.

I suppose we could have both of them on the roster, but playing them both in the lineup you proposed makes me think of it as a situational lineup because other than Markkanen there are no scorers on that lineup and I think it will have trouble putting up points on the board.

[Vox Populi]

I would love to have Giddy on the Jazz. I also like Daniels but I think both of them together is overkill and will yield diminishing returns. I would be happy if we managed to get either one.

Do you mean overkill and diminishing returns because they are both playmakers? I guess that is something to think about. A team can not have enough playmakers these days though. Dyson is a secondary playmaker at SF, not a primary. Dyson looks like he will develop into being a Mikal Bridges type on defense, and his playmaking is a bonus. That is a valuable archetype at SF. Giddey is the primary playmaker at PG. Those two and Lauri should make for some top level team basketball. All three don't have superstar egos and won't need superstar contracts either. So Ainge could maintain a quality rotation.

I suppose we could have both of them on the roster, but playing them both in the lineup you proposed makes me think of it as a situational lineup because other than Markkanen there are no scorers on that lineup and I think it will have trouble putting up points on the board.

Perhaps Danny can find a higher scoring SG that fits between them.

How do we create some buzz around Giddey and Dyson to the Jazz? Lets speak it into existence lol.

[Inigo Montoya]

Well, perhaps Danny can find a higher scoring SG that fits.

How do we create some buzz around Giddey and Dyson to the Jazz? Lets speak it into existence lol.

I'm having a hard time seeing OKC moving Giddy unfortunately, but I think maybe there is a deal to be had for Daniels.

I don't know how the Pelicans value Daniels so it's hard for me to come up with a trade but we have a lot of picks and good rotation players that can help them.

[mg]

I want to see Dyson Daniels and Josh Giddey on the Jazz, without giving up any of the guys below. Danny Ainge easily has the assets to pull it off.

Giddey, Agbaji, Daniels, Lauri, Kessler // Vanderbilt

1st team since the 2000s Pistons to win the title without a superstar?

If you are keeping Lauri/Kessler I'm not sure Jazz "easily" have enough assets to acquire either Daniels or Giddey. None of the other guys on the roster is going to move the needle for either OKC or the Pels. Both teams are trying to win and they both already have a ton of picks. Maybe the Pels end up dealing Daniels for a stud 3&D Anunoby "win now" type but if I were them I'd keep Daniels who still has years left on his rookie deal. There's no reason for OKC to deal Giddey who is just now starting to gel with SGA.

[zero24gravity]

A full episode only about the Jazz:

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Thanks for this. I don't think they broke any major news, but it was great to hear the Jazz get love, and not just for a quick 2 minute segment. And this was really glowing reviews of the Jazz team, management, and it's future. The potential players who could be involved in a Conley /Clippers deal may have been the most "new" info that I heard. Kennard, Mann, Bass, Covington. Seems like too much, TBH, but at least they were willing to throw out some actual names.

[Inigo Montoya]

Thanks for this. I don't think they broke any major news, but it was great to hear the Jazz get love, and not just for a quick 2 minute segment. And this was really glowing reviews of the Jazz team, management, and it's future. The potential players who could be involved in a Conley /Clippers deal may have been the most "new" info that I heard. Kennard, Mann, Bass, Covington. Seems like too much, TBH, but at least they were willing to throw out some actual names.

Towards the end they did say that the Jazz knew Mitchell wasn't staying with the Jazz long term, so maybe that qualifies as news.

[zero24gravity]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

Collins price tag coming down? Does this mean the Jazz could end up landing him? Time will tell.

[AingesBurner]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

Collins price tag coming down? Does this mean the Jazz could end up landing him? Time will tell.

Collins would be an interesting add because he was born in Utah, and that might be a draw to fans.

[SoCalJazzFan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

Collins price tag coming down? Does this mean the Jazz could end up landing him? Time will tell.

Jazz have started the combo of Markk, Olynyk and Kessler recently. Makes you wonder if Collins would in fact fit.

Given the reports, they should be able to easily trade Beasely to the Cavs, with Vando and LeVert to the Hawks. Sticking point appears to be pick from the Hawks. Do they end up giving a 1st (would have to be this year, SAC protected next year or 29 pick). I guess a middle ground would be a pick swap of BKN/PHI pick, which today would be #28 for #14.

[Inigo Montoya]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

Collins price tag coming down? Does this mean the Jazz could end up landing him? Time will tell.

I don't think I've ever been so annoyed by a team's trade strategy and trade news as I am with the Hawks. Just two days ago we heard them posturing about how they are willing to keep him:

Hawks Willing To Keep John Collins Beyond Trade Deadline
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

They were also reported to have a high asking price for him previously.

Just for fun, I went to the Hawks news feed and looked for all the teams that were reported to be interested in Collins from the beginning of the season:

1. Heat Discussed John Collins Trade With Hawks
2. The Phoenix Suns have shown interest in Collins, but they appear reluctant to take on long-term money and to trade future first round picks due to the uncertainty of their ownership
3. Suns Interested In Harrison Barnes, Kyle Kuzma, KJ Martin, John Collins
4. Suns Not Interested In Trading For John Collins
5. Nets Recently 'Touched Based' With Hawks Over John Collins
6. Jazz, Wizards, Nets, Mavericks Interested In John Collins
7. Pacers Could Have Interest In Trading For John Collins
8. Jazz, Hawks, Suns Talked Three-Team Trade
9. Nets, Pacers, Jazz, Wizards All Pursuing John Collins
10. Jazz, Hawks Discuss John Collins For Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt
11. Pacers Connected To John Collins
12. Wizards, Jazz, Nets, Pacers Interested In Trading For John Collins
13. Pelicans Interested In John Collins
14. Pelicans Remain Interested In Trading For John Collins
15. Hawks Willing To Keep John Collins Beyond Trade Deadline
16. Hawks Significantly Decrease Asking Price In John Collins Trade

This has to be the most ridiculous, rudderless, desperate and annoying team strategy to ever try to trade a player. I can't wait for it to be over.

[zero24gravity]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

Collins price tag coming down? Does this mean the Jazz could end up landing him? Time will tell.

I don't think I've ever been so annoyed by a team's trade strategy and trade news as I am with the Hawks. Just two days ago we heard them posturing about how they are willing to keep him:

Hawks Willing To Keep John Collins Beyond Trade Deadline
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

They were also reported to have a high asking price for him previously.

Just for fun, I went to the Hawks news feed and looked for all the teams that were reported to be interested in Collins from the beginning of the season:

1. Heat Discussed John Collins Trade With Hawks
2. The Phoenix Suns have shown interest in Collins, but they appear reluctant to take on long-term money and to trade future first round picks due to the uncertainty of their ownership
3. Suns Interested In Harrison Barnes, Kyle Kuzma, KJ Martin, John Collins
4. Suns Not Interested In Trading For John Collins
5. Nets Recently 'Touched Based' With Hawks Over John Collins
6. Jazz, Wizards, Nets, Mavericks Interested In John Collins
7. Pacers Could Have Interest In Trading For John Collins
8. Jazz, Hawks, Suns Talked Three-Team Trade
9. Nets, Pacers, Jazz, Wizards All Pursuing John Collins
10. Jazz, Hawks Discuss John Collins For Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt
11. Pacers Connected To John Collins
12. Wizards, Jazz, Nets, Pacers Interested In Trading For John Collins
13. Pelicans Interested In John Collins
14. Pelicans Remain Interested In Trading For John Collins
15. Hawks Willing To Keep John Collins Beyond Trade Deadline
16. Hawks Significantly Decrease Asking Price In John Collins Trade

This has to be the most ridiculous, rudderless, desperate and annoying team strategy to ever try to trade a player. I can't wait for it to be over.

Well done! It truly will be interesting to see how things pan out. Makes me think they'll end up keeping him, due to pure confusion & mismanagement .... or trade him for pennies on the dollar at the last minute before the trade deadline, when their indecisiveness comes back to bite them in the butt.

[Inigo Montoya]

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[red4hf]

Vanderbilt, Beasley and maybe Olynyk seem to be on the way out.......

[Inigo Montoya]

Jazz Believed To Have First-Round Pick Offers For Malik Beasley
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270250/Jazz-Believed-To-Have-First-Round-Pick-Offers-For-Malik-Beasley

[SoCalJazzFan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

Collins price tag coming down? Does this mean the Jazz could end up landing him? Time will tell.

I don't think I've ever been so annoyed by a team's trade strategy and trade news as I am with the Hawks. Just two days ago we heard them posturing about how they are willing to keep him:

Hawks Willing To Keep John Collins Beyond Trade Deadline
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270217/Hawks-Significantly-Decrease-Asking-Price-In-John-Collins-Trade

They were also reported to have a high asking price for him previously.

Just for fun, I went to the Hawks news feed and looked for all the teams that were reported to be interested in Collins from the beginning of the season:

1. Heat Discussed John Collins Trade With Hawks
2. The Phoenix Suns have shown interest in Collins, but they appear reluctant to take on long-term money and to trade future first round picks due to the uncertainty of their ownership
3. Suns Interested In Harrison Barnes, Kyle Kuzma, KJ Martin, John Collins
4. Suns Not Interested In Trading For John Collins
5. Nets Recently 'Touched Based' With Hawks Over John Collins
6. Jazz, Wizards, Nets, Mavericks Interested In John Collins
7. Pacers Could Have Interest In Trading For John Collins
8. Jazz, Hawks, Suns Talked Three-Team Trade
9. Nets, Pacers, Jazz, Wizards All Pursuing John Collins
10. Jazz, Hawks Discuss John Collins For Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt
11. Pacers Connected To John Collins
12. Wizards, Jazz, Nets, Pacers Interested In Trading For John Collins
13. Pelicans Interested In John Collins
14. Pelicans Remain Interested In Trading For John Collins
15. Hawks Willing To Keep John Collins Beyond Trade Deadline
16. Hawks Significantly Decrease Asking Price In John Collins Trade

This has to be the most ridiculous, rudderless, desperate and annoying team strategy to ever try to trade a player. I can't wait for it to be over.

Perhaps even crazier is a recent report that the Hawks have had at least half of the league interested in Bogdanavic. Their new management, which includes the owner's son, has an interesting approach.

[SoCalJazzFan]

Reports are today that the Lakers have engaged the Jazz again about a possible RW trade. Conley and Beasely make a ton of sense for them. I wonder if Danny is still insisting on both of their future unprotected picks.