The Official Utah Jazz-Related Stuff 2024-2025 Thread

[Catchall]

Cody Williams should be showing more than he has at this point in his rookie season. He can hit some spot-up 3s and he hustles on defense, but his on-ball skills haven't translated against NBA defenders.

He'll likely bust, but so will most of the lottery picks of the underwhelming 2024 draft (if it's any consolation).

Cody's issue appears to be mental, imo. We knew at the time of the draft that he'd need to add strength, tighten his handle and work on a number of things. That's not really the problem. The problem is that he seems to lack competitive drive. He has a bad miss, and he doesn't react, like he's not disappointed. He makes a nice drive and finish, and he doesn't show any emotion. It's like he doesn't care.

It's enough for me to wonder if he really even likes basketball or if he's just doing it because he's tall and his brother got him into it.

[Denizfeital]

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Thanks for sharing this, brother.

You know, time can heal all wounds.

This brought back memories from that time, so many emotions came back. I may have said this here a few times, Jerry Sloan was one of the people I admired most in my whole life (he still is an idol for me and will be forever that way).

Looking back, I think he should have handle Deron's rookie year differently. but he was too stubborn, which made him great sometimes and also hurt him other times.

When he abruptly retired, I blamed Deron Williams for a long time. I was so happy when we traded him like 5 days after Sloan's retirement. I honestly couldn't stand him in a Jazz uniform anymore.

I remember seeing him with Sloan a few years ago (when Sloan was very old and probably not understanding what was going on anymore), Deron was very polite and saying that he should have handled things differently with Sloan at the time. A class act.

He seems very happy and in peace right now, which was something really nice to see. I am happy for him.

What could have been, we will never know (after all, we should have drafted Chris Paul in the first place ).

But those were good times, nonetheless.

Regards,

[babyjax13]

I think it is too early to write of Williams, but this draft was also uniquely flat and we've got two other interesting players.

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[Inigo Montoya]

I can't even keep up on whether these are real injuries or not.

[Cappy_Smurf]

The flattened lottery odds are depressing.

Even though Utah will likely finish at the very bottom of the league, they are 3 times more likely to get the 5th pick than the first.

Talk about rubbing salt in the wound after a very forgettable season.

It's completely understandable why teams like Utah are hesitant to strip the team down completely. We are already 3 years into what could be a very long rebuild. Striking gold once is going to be difficult, but having to strike gold in consecutive drafts is almost like hoping to win the powerball.

[Inigo Montoya]

It is definitely a bummer that by the time the Jazz finally decides to tank, they do it at a time in which the lottery odds are flattened but there is nothing to be done about it. It is also unfortunate that Duke lost in the semis and didn't win a NCAA championship, which would have made it easier for Flagg to go to the NBA instead of mulling over staying in college another year.

[AingesBurner]

It is definitely a bummer that by the time the Jazz finally decides to tank, they do it at a time in which the lottery odds are flattened but there is nothing to be done about it. It is also unfortunate that Duke lost in the semis and didn't win a NCAA championship, which would have made it easier for Flagg to go to the NBA instead of mulling over staying in college another year.

He would make more money in the NBA, I think whoever is picking #1 will determine if he stays or goes.

[Inigo Montoya]

It is definitely a bummer that by the time the Jazz finally decides to tank, they do it at a time in which the lottery odds are flattened but there is nothing to be done about it. It is also unfortunate that Duke lost in the semis and didn't win a NCAA championship, which would have made it easier for Flagg to go to the NBA instead of mulling over staying in college another year.

He would make more money in the NBA, I think whoever is picking #1 will determine if he stays or goes.

Flagg after the draft: "Wait, the Wizards got the #1 pick? Screw that, I'm going back to college."

[AingesBurner]

It is definitely a bummer that by the time the Jazz finally decides to tank, they do it at a time in which the lottery odds are flattened but there is nothing to be done about it. It is also unfortunate that Duke lost in the semis and didn't win a NCAA championship, which would have made it easier for Flagg to go to the NBA instead of mulling over staying in college another year.

He would make more money in the NBA, I think whoever is picking #1 will determine if he stays or goes.

Flagg after the draft: "Wait, the Wizards got the #1 pick? Screw that, I'm going back to college."

lucky for him he can withdraw once the lotto selection is determined.

[Denizfeital]

An NBA expert—someone legit from ESPN or a similar outlet—mentioned that Flagg could potentially lose around $75 million over the course of his career if he decides to return to college. It would delay his entire career by a year, including his first major contract—the one where he’d really start making serious money. Personally, I don’t see him going back to college, no matter where he ends up.

Some might say that $75 million is just peanuts for someone who’s about to become a multi-millionaire anyway. But we all know that’s not how it works. For these guys, money talks (not saying that’s good or bad—just the reality).

Regards,

[Inigo Montoya]

It makes sense. I've heard some analysts also say that he didn't reclassify to go college a year earlier just so he could stay there another year, but so he could get to the NBA a year earlier. I hope it's the case (unless the Jazz don't get the #1 pick, then he can go back to Duke for another season).

[Hoops Addict]

The Jazz are in last place. This is great.

[Inigo Montoya]

The Jazz are in last place. This is great.

It is. And next season they only need to do the opposite and they win a championship

[bkohler]

The Jazz are in last place. This is great.

It is. And next season they only need to do the opposite and they win a championship

Seems easy.

I completely understand and support where we’re at but I’m definitely ready for the season to be over. I think we’ve got a few more of these coming up but we’ll at least have another good young guy and Hendricks to cheer for next year.

[Inigo Montoya]

The Jazz are in last place. This is great.

It is. And next season they only need to do the opposite and they win a championship

Seems easy.

I completely understand and support where we’re at but I’m definitely ready for the season to be over. I think we’ve got a few more of these coming up but we’ll at least have another good young guy and Hendricks to cheer for next year.

Next season should be fun with Hendricks, a top-6 pick and another rookie. Maybe the Jazz will also bring Procida? Should be interesting.

[bkohler]

I think we underestimate how much the Hendricks injury took the wind out of the sails this season. Not that we weren’t going to be finish with an awful record but if Hendrick had shown real flashes we’d be feeling much better about everything.

[shrink]

As a MIN fan, I’m curious if you guys have heard anything whether the Jazz will tank the last game.

Yes, the Jazz and Wizards are tied for the worst record in the NBA. However, keep in mind that the lottery odds are flattened for the four worst teams, so beating the Wolves would not affect their odds. In fact, the only way that a win hurts them is the statistically unlikely event that BOTH WAS and UTA didn’t win a Top 4 pick in the lottery. If the Jazz win tomorrow, it would likely only turn a coin flip between pick 5 and 6 into UTA automatically getting #6.

Meanwhile, UTA owns MIN’s pick from the Gobert trade, which is currently a coin flip between Picks 20 and 21. If they could tag MIN with a loss, it could become a coin flip between Picks 18-20. Moreover, it would knock MIN into the Play-In tournament, where the inconsistent Wolves could lose, turning that pick into #14.

Edwards suspension could be a very big deal if the Jazz decide to try to win that game

[Inigo Montoya]

As a MIN fan, I’m curious if you guys have heard anything whether the Jazz will tank the last game.

Yes, the Jazz and Wizards are tied for the worst record in the NBA. However, keep in mind that the lottery odds are flattened for the four worst teams, so beating the Wolves would not affect their odds. In fact, the only way that a win hurts them is the statistically unlikely event that BOTH WAS and UTA didn’t win a Top 4 pick in the lottery. If the Jazz win tomorrow, it would likely only turn a coin flip between pick 5 and 6 into UTA automatically getting #6.

Meanwhile, UTA owns MIN’s pick from the Gobert trade, which is currently a coin flip between Picks 20 and 21. If they could tag MIN with a loss, it could become a coin flip between Picks 18-20. Moreover, it would knock MIN into the Play-In tournament, where the inconsistent Wolves could lose, turning that pick into #14.

Edwards suspension could be a very big deal if the Jazz decide to try to win that game

Hard to say. My guess is that the Jazz will tank, as some of their main guys are already out for the season.

[Inigo Montoya]

It's official, the Jazz ends the season with the worst record in the league, executing a masterful tank job. My congratulations and respect to all involved and especially the front office for finally picking a direction and going for it.