Trade Ideas for This Season

[red4hf]

Bulls fan in peace. I was intreagued but wanted to ask what is up with the yearly rumors Mitchell wants out?
Prior to this season it was due to a supposed rift between Gobert & him. Now it's been published he wants a bigger market. Is he potentially on the block this off season if the distractions increase?

Very unlikely the Jazz would contemplate moving him this off-season....... That likelihood increases as his contract gets closer to expiring......

[MalagaBulls]

Bulls fan in peace. I was intreagued but wanted to ask what is up with the yearly rumors Mitchell wants out?
Prior to this season it was due to a supposed rift between Gobert & him. Now it's been published he wants a bigger market. Is he potentially on the block this off season if the distractions increase?

Very unlikely the Jazz would contemplate moving him this off-season....... That likelihood increases as his contract gets closer to expiring......

If it were centered on a 1-4-1 swap with another star player with salary matching filler if necessary?

[bkohler]

As always it depends on the star, I don’t think Donovan is untouchable but the cost is probably in the Luka, Ja, Tatum range aka not going to happen.

[Catchall]

Looks like Jerami Grant wants to go to a solid playoff team where he can start. Jazz are on his list, so there is some level of mutual interest. Grant wants a really big extension though.

Read on Twitter

[D Rog]

Looks like Jerami Grant wants to go to a solid playoff team where he can start. Jazz are on his list, so there is some level of mutual interest. Grant wants a really big extension though.

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If this is the true list of teams J Grant wants to play for I think the Jazz may have the least to offer Detroit and Detroit is not required to trade him to somebody he chooses. If the Jazz can find a way to get a 3rd team involved then maybe. I would not be shocked if the Jazz passed on this years trade season or made only a minor trade. I don't see them making any serious move.

[SoCalJazzFan]

I have advocated for the Jazz to get Jerami Grant in the past, but I'm not sure they should now, given the extension ($100M) he wants beginning next year.

I'll pimp Nic Claxton again- here are the LEBRON comparisons for Claxton and Grant
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lFHIHH93Imr2okeqv6n7Sed7gl9wPg_KqnS7KfD98nM/edit#gid=142550129

Just for giggles, here is the comp for Claxton and Wood
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lFHIHH93Imr2okeqv6n7Sed7gl9wPg_KqnS7KfD98nM/edit#gid=142550129

I'm not saying Claxton is better at this moment, but he has the potential to be as good or better than both of these guys and could start showing it soon if given the chance. He is reportedly going to be available and probably not that expensive (at least compared to Grant and Wood).

[babyjax13]

Looks like Jerami Grant wants to go to a solid playoff team where he can start. Jazz are on his list, so there is some level of mutual interest. Grant wants a really big extension though.

Read on Twitter

That account has 10 followers, so I'm guessing it's not a real list.

[DusterBuster]

I'll feel sorry for whatever team ends up with Grant after the trade deadline this year. He really strikes me as the fools-gold player of the season. Whatever team trades for him will likely feel obligated to resign him because of what they'll have to give up to get him, and it'll have to be a massive deal he will never justify. I just don't see any other team where he can replicate the numbers he is putting up in Detroit. Any good team would never put him as such a focal point of their offense as the crappy Pistons have.

[DusterBuster]

Portland’s Robert Covington, league sources say, is a trade target who interests the Jazz given their well-known desire to upgrade defensively on the wing.
Source: Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

He would certainly give the wing and small ball center defense the Jazz need. If the Blazers give up Covington, they are giving up on the season, and maybe it would be the start of a rebuild.

From what Lillard has said, I think they are giving up on the season.

Right, Lillard said he won't come back unless the Blazers are in the playoffs. However, the Blazers would need Lillard back to make the playoffs.

This is some weird wording. Dame said he won't come back this season if it's clear the team is tanking in on the season (good players traded away for worse players coming back and lots of minutes for young guys). If they're in the hunt for the playoffs, Dame said he would come back.

As of right now, the Blazers have been crawling back into playoff contention without Lillard, thanks to the play of Simons in his place. They're also getting healthier and their schedule is getting much easier (they've had one of the hardest SOS in the league so far), so not crazy that Lillard could consider coming back if the Blazers are hovering around 8-10 and they're still trying to be competitive.

Regarding an Ingles for Covington trade, I don't really think the Blazers make that move without some draft compensation coming their way. Ingles makes slightly more than Covington this season, which hurts their desire to make sure they stay under the tax line, and Covington is just simply much better than whatever is left of Ingles. So without other compensation coming back Portland's way to make it worth their while, I can't imagine why they would do a straight swap deal or one with only a 2nd round pick incentive.

[babyjax13]

From what Lillard has said, I think they are giving up on the season.

Right, Lillard said he won't come back unless the Blazers are in the playoffs. However, the Blazers would need Lillard back to make the playoffs.

This is some weird wording. Dame said he won't come back this season if it's clear the team is tanking in on the season (good players traded away for worse players coming back and lots of minutes for young guys). If they're in the hunt for the playoffs, Dame said he would come back.

As of right now, the Blazers have been crawling back into playoff contention without Lillard, thanks to the play of Simons in his place. They're also getting healthier and their schedule is getting much easier (they've had one of the hardest SOS in the league so far), so not crazy that Lillard could consider coming back if the Blazers are hovering around 8-10 and they're still trying to be competitive.

Regarding an Ingles for Covington trade, I don't really think the Blazers make that move without some draft compensation coming their way. Ingles makes slightly more than Covington this season, which hurts their desire to make sure they stay under the tax line, and Covington is just simply much better than whatever is left of Ingles. So without other compensation coming back Portland's way to make it worth their while, I can't imagine why they would do a straight swap deal or one with only a 2nd round pick incentive.

I can't see how we'd be interested in adding draft compensation beyond a second to Ingles for an expiring Covington.

[DusterBuster]

Right, Lillard said he won't come back unless the Blazers are in the playoffs. However, the Blazers would need Lillard back to make the playoffs.

This is some weird wording. Dame said he won't come back this season if it's clear the team is tanking in on the season (good players traded away for worse players coming back and lots of minutes for young guys). If they're in the hunt for the playoffs, Dame said he would come back.

As of right now, the Blazers have been crawling back into playoff contention without Lillard, thanks to the play of Simons in his place. They're also getting healthier and their schedule is getting much easier (they've had one of the hardest SOS in the league so far), so not crazy that Lillard could consider coming back if the Blazers are hovering around 8-10 and they're still trying to be competitive.

Regarding an Ingles for Covington trade, I don't really think the Blazers make that move without some draft compensation coming their way. Ingles makes slightly more than Covington this season, which hurts their desire to make sure they stay under the tax line, and Covington is just simply much better than whatever is left of Ingles. So without other compensation coming back Portland's way to make it worth their while, I can't imagine why they would do a straight swap deal or one with only a 2nd round pick incentive.

I can't see how we'd be interested in adding draft compensation beyond a second to Ingles for an expiring Covington.

Probably no deal to be made here then to get Covington to Utah. Just no incentive for Portland to make that deal. Ingles is a far worse player at this point in these guys respective careers and the salary issue is counterintuitive to what Portland usually does around the deadline (lowering salary), so don’t really see a workable way around those issues if Utah won’t add in some highly protected first to make it worth the Blazers while.

[babyjax13]

This is some weird wording. Dame said he won't come back this season if it's clear the team is tanking in on the season (good players traded away for worse players coming back and lots of minutes for young guys). If they're in the hunt for the playoffs, Dame said he would come back.

As of right now, the Blazers have been crawling back into playoff contention without Lillard, thanks to the play of Simons in his place. They're also getting healthier and their schedule is getting much easier (they've had one of the hardest SOS in the league so far), so not crazy that Lillard could consider coming back if the Blazers are hovering around 8-10 and they're still trying to be competitive.

Regarding an Ingles for Covington trade, I don't really think the Blazers make that move without some draft compensation coming their way. Ingles makes slightly more than Covington this season, which hurts their desire to make sure they stay under the tax line, and Covington is just simply much better than whatever is left of Ingles. So without other compensation coming back Portland's way to make it worth their while, I can't imagine why they would do a straight swap deal or one with only a 2nd round pick incentive.

I can't see how we'd be interested in adding draft compensation beyond a second to Ingles for an expiring Covington.

Probably no deal to be made here then to get Covington to Utah. Just no incentive for Portland to make that deal. Ingles is a far worse player at this point in these guys respective careers and the salary issue is counterintuitive to what Portland usually does around the deadline (lowering salary), so don’t really see a workable way around those issues if Utah won’t add in some highly protected first to make it worth the Blazers while.

Covington is a bit better, but there is not a large degree of separation by RAPTOR or EPM, and Ingles is still good. I think it's more of a matter of what a team needs, shooting and playmaking, or defense?

[Wolverine]

I can't see how we'd be interested in adding draft compensation beyond a second to Ingles for an expiring Covington.

Probably no deal to be made here then to get Covington to Utah. Just no incentive for Portland to make that deal. Ingles is a far worse player at this point in these guys respective careers and the salary issue is counterintuitive to what Portland usually does around the deadline (lowering salary), so don’t really see a workable way around those issues if Utah won’t add in some highly protected first to make it worth the Blazers while.

Covington is a bit better, but there is not a large degree of separation by RAPTOR or EPM, and Ingles is still good. I think it's more of a matter of what a team needs, shooting and playmaking, or defense?

This trade makes us marginally better yet sacrifices comraderie. Doesn’t move the dial enough to make it worthwhile

[Wolverine]

The rumours have shifted to Harrison Barnes, he should’ve been our years ago when the warriors tanked

[SoCalJazzFan]

The rumours have shifted to Harrison Barnes, he should’ve been our years ago when the warriors tanked

Interestingly, both the RAPTOR and LEBRON stats show Barnes as an overall negative, and certainly not a wing defensive stopper.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/?player=Harrison%20Barnes&season=2022

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lFHIHH93Imr2okeqv6n7Sed7gl9wPg_KqnS7KfD98nM/edit#gid=2065252118

[Catchall]

Knicks are apparently willing to move Randle depending on the deal. He'd actually fit with the Jazz well as a point-forward if he doesn't try to do too much.

If the Jazz could get Randle, while keeping Mitchell, Gobert and Conley, that would be a good move.

[CAE15]

Knicks are apparently willing to move Randle depending on the deal. He'd actually fit with the Jazz well as a point-forward if he doesn't try to do too much.

If the Jazz could get Randle, while keeping Mitchell, Gobert and Conley, that would be a good move.

While Randle would be a nice get and play well with Gobert and ffs give us a rebounder. I think it would hurt our shooting too much especially since Randle isn't some great defender.

[D Rog]

With all of these players everybody is suggesting the Jazz get (and I am guilty as well), who do the Jazz give up and why would that team be interested? I like John Collins and Atlanta is shopping him for a draft pick and starter level player. I look at the Jazz roster and IMO there is nobody the Jazz would be willing to trade that Atlanta would be willing to accept. I have the same question about Harrison Barnes, Jerami Grant and Robert Covington.

[SoCalJazzFan]

With all of these players everybody is suggesting the Jazz get (and I am guilty as well), who do the Jazz give up and why would that team be interested? I like John Collins and Atlanta is shopping him for a draft pick and starter level player. I look at the Jazz roster and IMO there is nobody the Jazz would be willing to trade that Atlanta would be willing to accept. I have the same question about Harrison Barnes, Jerami Grant and Robert Covington.

Some of the players are probably not realistically gettable. A player like Covington, though, could be as if POR decides that this year is a wash and Dame needs more time to recuperate, or they are thinking of blowing it up or going a different direction, they lose Covington for nothing if they don't trade him, but he is not anywhere near all star level and an expiring contract so his value isn't that high. POR might view having a longer contract, such as Clarkson's, worth it as a future trade chip. Maybe they are looking for a future 2nd rd pick.

[SoCalJazzFan]

Nets are going to work with Millsap to send him to another team. Is the bridge between him and the Jazz burned?