Power Tankings

[UGLI baby]

The Jazz are coached by Corbin.

Have Lucas and Biedrins.

Have two d-leaguers.

Have had injuries missed games to Biedrins, Evans, Burke, Favors, Williams and Rush.

Have the hardest schedule in the NBA (win %)

Play in the loaded west.

A GM dedicated to the tank.


Doesn't matter what other teams do. Jazz have this.

Integrity might end up getting in the way.

Soooooooo this.

[Test Case]

Best thread on this entire site.

[gameface]

Best thread on this entire site.

I think it has to do with the good company.

[Stoked]

The Jazz are coached by Corbin.

Have Lucas and Biedrins.

Have two d-leaguers.

Have had injuries missed games to Biedrins, Evans, Burke, Favors, Williams and Rush.

Have the hardest schedule in the NBA (win %)

Play in the loaded west.

A GM dedicated to the tank.


Doesn't matter what other teams do. Jazz have this.

I truly despise you.

Don't be mad. In the words of Ugwe, "you just have to believe".

[JazzMatt13]

This looks long, but it is actually like 2-3 "normal" paragraphs, filled mostly by standings and charts!

West Coast Facts:
-13 out of 15 teams in WC, are good enough for Playoff spot. However only 3 out of 15 teams in EC are above .500.

-Only 2 teams in West aren't looking for playoffs as of right now, all but the 2 in WC have been riding .500's most the season! Lakers and Grizzles (two playoff teams from last year) are the "worst teams looking for playoffs".

-This all means 5 teams who are looking to playoffs won't make it! Right now it is Mavs, Wolves, Pelicans, Grizzles, and Lakers. Pelicans and Wolves haven't been a "playoff team" in several years, and have little chance.

-So, WC has 7 "playoff teams" for last 4 spots in West. Mavs, Lakers and Grizzles, are obviously talented playoff teams, and with the current 5th-8th spots (Rockets, Nuggets, Suns and Warriors) they make up the 7!

-That is 11 teams in WC who are without a doubt going after a playoff run, and I would say only 4 are for sure going, Blazers, Spurs, Thunder and Clippers, aka the top 4 spots.


-In the past 5 years, 8th place had this many wins:

2008- WC: 50 wins - EC: 37 wins
2009- WC: 48 wins - EC: 39 wins
2010- WC: 50 wins - EC: 41 wins
2011- WC: 46 wins - EC: 37 wins
2012- WC: 45 wins - EC: 43 wins
2013- WC: 45 wins - EC: 38 wins
*(In 2012, I added wins they would have had if they finished the season with their ending percentage)

-How many +.500 WC teams missed Playoffs:

2008- 2 teams (Warriors and Blazers)
2009- 1 team (Suns)
2010- 1 team (Rockets)
2011- 1 team (Rockets)
2012- 2 teams (Rockets and Suns)
2013- 2 teams (Jazz and Mavs)


East Coast:

-If you take away the Nets, Knicks, and Bulls (teams who are looking for a playoff spot, the NYC teams have no 1st round anyways), if you take them from the worst in east, that leaves 4 teams! These 4 are not even looking for a playoff spot, these 4 are Bucks, 76ers, Magic, and Raptors!

-Of the top 8 teams in EC right now, Bobcats and Cavs are the only 2 who might become a real threat to bottom 3 spots, so I am counting Cavs as team #5 in East, Big Al will easily got to playoffs!



The Lottery:

That means, as of right now, there are for sure 7 teams including Jazz, fighting for a bottom 3 pick with a possible "up to" 10 teams, who at least are after a bottom 6 spot. They are all after Wiggins, Parker, or Randle, but if they don't get one of them, the next 3 will still get consolation prizes of Smart, Exum, or Embiid!

One of the bottom 3 in standings will not get a top 3 spot, and two might not get top 3 spot, depending on how many non-bottom 3 teams get bleeping lucky!! Only 1st worst is guaranteed 4th or better, 2nd and 3rd can easily get 4th or 5th pick, which is what they have gotten a lot of in past 5 years!

We could be unlucky like this:

-In 2012, 1st got 2nd, 2nd got 3rd, and 3rd got 4th pick! (4th got 1st)

-In 2011, 1st got 2nd, 2nd got 4th, and 3rd got 5th pick! (8th got 1st, and 6th got 3rd)

-In 2010, 1st got 3rd, 2nd got 4th, and 3rd got 5th pick! (5th got 1st, and 6th got 2nd)

-In 2009, 1st got 4th, 2nd got 5th, and 3rd got the 1st pick! (4th got 3rd, and 6th got 2nd)

-In 2008, 1st got 2nd, 2nd got 4th, and 3rd got the 3rd pick! (9th got 1st)


The Tank:

So even if we do make bottom 3 at end of year, we might not even get a #3 pick! I just hope all the people who beg for more losses hope we do in fact get #1 worst! Cause I hope they realize that we can end up with a 5th pick from bottom 3 standings, and that tanking might not be worth Exum, especially if some bleeping 6th place team gets 2nd and Parker, or some 8th place team gets 1st and Wiggins!!!! That is reality!

Non-Playoff teams who are not looking for playoffs, in order of worst to best:

1-Jazz
2-Bucks
3-Kings-
4-Magic
5-Philly
6-Raptors
7-Cavs

[Cyrone Torbin]

3/10 on OP's list. Poor execution.

[Cyrone Torbin]

1. Bucks

The whole bar fight thing with Larry Sanders and the injury are ingenious.

[Catchall]

We have back-to-back blowout wins on the road. I have some serious concerns here. Jefferson and Marvin Williams are being effective. The team is moving the ball better and putting up more points.

Something needs to be done---like sending Trey Burke to the D-league and trading out any veteran that scores double figures.

[Catchall]

Toronto, Sacramento and Philadelphia are starting their descent. The situation is serious. It wouldn't take much for us to fall out of the top 5.

[JazzMatt13]

Toronto, Sacramento and Philadelphia are starting their descent. The situation is serious. It wouldn't take much for us to fall out of the top 5.

There is easily 10 teams who look to bomb the season. I think those 3 are pretending to "want to be a playoff team", but I think are just looking for a good playoff spot.

[spoonhoops]

I'm seriously freaking out about the tank. Tonight's loss was fantastic and hope that it brings us down for a few games, but trey, Marvin and Jefferson seem to be playing well lately so who freakin knows. Hope last nights game from Hayward was a fluke.

[KDBG]

What teams do you think have the strongest tank? Who's tank worries you the most and how do you think the Jazz stack up?

UGLI's pWr Tankings


1) Milwaukee- Just a horrible roster, and there is fan support for the tank.

Silver Lining- they have one of the worst owners in sports. A horrible track record of short sighted moves. If they start sniffing the playoffs in the horrible East, I could see ownership wanting to make a run at it.

2) 76ers- This team was built to tank. They started off the year extremely hot, but they worry me because I think they will tank with absolutely no shame down the stretch. They also have a really hard schedule the last month and a half of the season. (prime time for tanking)

3) Toronto- They might deserve to be #2 tbh. They seem to be blowing it up, but it was basically already blowed up so who knows. The reason they are #2 instead of #3 is they just got rid of a guy that everyone hated to play with. That might provide a little boost in the short term as evidenced by their win over the Lakers yesterday.

4) Utah Jazz- I'm still not 100% sold on the tank, I think we will win some frustrating games down the stretch because we will refuse to purposely lose, and Trey Burke is also too much of a winner to have a true tank. However, I can't ignore the fact that the Eastern teams are going to get a lot of accidental wins, and as of now it seems we are the only team in the West that is tanking. Things *could* be breaking just right for us.

5) Cleveland- Things are very tenuous for the Cavs because most of their key players are very injury prone. If Irving goes down they have the propensity to tank with no shame whatsoever.

6) Kings- The Gay trade shows that they will not be trying to lose on purpose, but the only problem is that Gay is a horrible team player. They are ranked this low because I think they want to win, but I could see the Gay trade being great for them or totally destroying any chemistry they have, leaving them with one of the worst records.

7) Orlando- They actually have a lot of nice pieces and a good coach, so I could see them beating up on the bottom teams in the East. They are still a definite threat though because they don't have a full roster, and I don't doubt that the organization would be ok to tank down the stretch.

8) Knicks- They don't own their pick and have no incentive to tank, but it is somewhat worrisome that they have been this bad while trying to win.

9) Nets- Same as the Knicks.

10- Grizzlies- lots of injuries, but not a true threat IMHO.

Welcome to the board mayne. You're one of my favorite posters on Jazzfanz, you're a hilarious mother f*****. It's funny though, cause usually you're like the class clown type, but this tank is really driving you crazy. Every time the Jazz win, you turn into a pissy slut. We're sluts with you though man. There would be nothing worse than to get the 10th pick in the draft. I either want a deep run in the playoffs (which obviously isn't happening this year), or a top 3 pick.

Haha I am legit filled with rage when the jazz win. I turn off the game if we are up big. It just feels too weird to hate your own teams players for doing good.

do you post over there, or just read?

Nah, just read. If I posted there, I know it would bring out my cynical side, and I'd get banned for ripping on dudes like that "The Thriller" MF'er. Ugh, what's up with his hardcore BYU fan/extreme liberal/unreal hyperbole shtick? Reading his posts make me angry, lol.