Future Free Agent Thread

babyjax13 · Post #21 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 11:35 pm

Luigi wrote:Tobias Harris is earning himself a max deal so far this season. That may take him off of our radar, since he's probably not worth a max deal in the end.

Not many free agents that we can draw hit the market at a good price for us. This makes the 1 year rental/tryout option even more compelling for us (as OKC showed).

I think he's worth it, especially with his fit. He's not any less impactful than Griffin and doesn't have the injury concerns.

Tom349 · Post #22 » by **Tom349** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 12:39 pm

Whats everyone thoughts on Delon Wright. He impresses me every time he I see him play for Toronto and think he has more to offer than he gets a chance to show given their depth. I feel like he is a player who could be had cheap and once on that contract will be seen as a very valuable piece, kind of like having Crowder on 7.5m a season.

Also what does everyone think Rubio gets this off season? What is the most you would pay to bring him back? I personally expect him to have a heap of market value and be looking around 10m a season which I think for that price you can live with the inconsistent shooting nights.

stitches · Post #23 » by **stitches** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 1:17 pm

We need more scoring and shot creation... we need more players who can beat their man and create advantage for our system to work. I propose we sign someone like Alec Burks in the summer. What do you guys and gals say?

Post #24 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 2:35 pm

stitches wrote:We need more scoring and shot creation... we need more players who can beat their man and create advantage for our system to work. I propose we sign someone like Alec Burks in the summer. What do you guys and gals say?

That guy looks pretty good.

KqWIN · Post #25 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 3:29 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
stitches wrote:We need more scoring and shot creation... we need more players who can beat their man and create advantage for our system to work. I propose we sign someone like Alec Burks in the summer. What do you guys and gals say?

That guy looks pretty good.

Nah, we definitely needed to prioritize guys like Thabo this offseason. No reason to go after shooting until you secure him first.

sipclip · Post #26 » by **sipclip** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 3:33 pm

I'm loving Julius Randle. Sucks we went out of our way to re-sign Favors for twice what he is being paid. The kid is turning into a beast.

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KqWIN · Post #27 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 3:44 pm

sipclip wrote:I'm loving Julius Randle. Sucks we went out of our way to re-sign Favors for twice what he is being paid. The kid is turning into a beast.

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I can’t believe he received so little interest this summer. Today’s game is all about switching, especially in the playoffs. Randle is unswitchable. If he has a small guy on him he’s putting him under the rim and scoring.

sipclip · Post #28 » by **sipclip** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 3:51 pm

He is awesome. I have no clue what the Lakers were thinking letting him go.

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Post #29 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 6:11 pm

Randle is massively over-performing on his 8.6M contract.

Luigi · Post #30 » by **Luigi** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 7:40 pm

sipclip wrote:He is awesome. I have no clue what the Lakers were thinking letting him go.

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They are thinking cap space for Durant next summer.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #31 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 10:21 pm

This is interesting:
http://bkref.com/tiny/xY7EF

Tobias and Bobby Portis with similar stats at this juncture of their careers. Bulls couldn't get to a number to extend Portis in Oct. What are they willing to match, or are they willing to deal him at the deadline? I don't know if Portis will ever be the scorer that Tobias has become, but he just might and he is a much better interior player (offensively and defensively) and has decent enough game at distance and would be a fraction of what Tobias would cost.

Crunch 99 · Post #32 » by **Crunch 99** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:32 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Randle is massively over-performing on his 8.6M contract.

Randle, Bjelica and Marcus Morris are all massively outperforming their contracts at $8.6m, $6.5 and $5.4m this season. But part of the reason these guys are having such good seasons is that they are playing alongside other offensive threats that command a lot of attention. New Orleans may have too many big men deserving fairly sizable money next summer, so maybe one of Mirotic, Randle or both will be available.

Chicago has a glut of talented big men with Markannen, Jabari, Carter and Portis. Portis might be the odd man out.

Marcus Morris is having a big contract year performance, but nobody is going to ignore Morris' career numbers and his sometimes attitude problems. He will probably be available as a player that comes with questions at $11m per year or below? Morris can play small PF or SF. He's been starting at PF for Boston the last few games.

KqWIN · Post #33 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:44 am

Dinwiddie is off the board. Congrats to him.

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Luigi · Post #34 » by **Luigi** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:55 am

Yup, got an Exum-like contract.

tleikheen · Post #35 » by **tleikheen** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:54 am

IMHO the last time the Jazz signed a FA who made a long term impact was the great signing of Carlos Boozer and Memo Okur. Neither of them had clearly showed anyone they were going to be REALLY good players.

My point is no players who have established NBA credentials want to play in small markets.

Jazz need to go hard at young players who are getting noticed and have the look of potentially being really good NBA players if they get steady playing time .

Furkan Korkmaz is a pure scorer unafraid of letting 3 pter's fly. He's free after this season.
Juancho Hernangomz ,playing and contributing ,but if Michael Porter comes back 100% he'd make Denver REALLY good

Jazz fanz are looking at players who aren't coming to Utah BUT Hernangomez and Korkmaz would fit nicely on the Jazz as good replacements for Crowder and Rubio.

CAE15 · Post #36 » by **CAE15** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:42 am

The jazz have only really had a fair amount of cap to add to a competitive team a few times.. sure utah is a small market and bigger names are going to look at big markets most of the time. But there was a rumor utah had Kyle Lowry interested in coming to Utah if Hayward stuck around. Jazz finally have some pieces now to where potential FAs might be interested in teaming up. This is really the first year jazz will be an appealing destination as long as we can finish in at least the final 8 again. If we get nothing after a successful year this year, then yeah we might have to buy the whole players don't want to play in utah.

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Crunch 99 · Post #37 » by **Crunch 99** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:30 pm

I check out the Real GM Boston board every so often. Marcus Morris has gone from an afterthought they infrequently talk about to "Morris is off to a great start, but there is no way he will keep up his high percentage shooting" to "Is there any way we can re-sign Marcus Morris next summer?" to "Is Marcus Morris a better player than Jayson Tatum at this point in their careers?"

Since Hayward went to the bench and Morris moved in to the starting lineup as PF, Morris has continued to impress on offense: 16.8 ppg on .509/.385 with 5.8 3PA per game, 5.8 rebs, 2.0 ast and 0.9 tov in 29.8 mpg. Off the bench, Morris was 13.9 ppg on .486/.449 with 4.6 3PA per game, 6.6 rebs. 1.2 ast and 1.9 tov in 26.1 mpg. For the season, Morris is knocking down threes at 42.3%.

Imo, Boston is not in a good position to make Morris a decent offer to retain him. I know there are some board members here that said Marcus Morris is not a Jazz type of guy, but beggars can't be choosers? And maybe Morris is viewed unfairly or maybe Morris has matured? Most players become more professional over the course of their careers. Morris might be an excellent fit.

We could do a lot worse than Marcus Morris in free agency next summer, and I doubt he will cost an arm and a leg. In addition, I'd like to stick it to Danny Ainge. :lol:

babyjax13 · Post #38 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 am

tleikheen wrote:IMHO the last time the Jazz signed a FA who made a long term impact was the great signing of Carlos Boozer and Memo Okur. Neither of them had clearly showed anyone they were going to be REALLY good players.

My point is no players who have established NBA credentials want to play in small markets.

Jazz need to go hard at young players who are getting noticed and have the look of potentially being really good NBA players if they get steady playing time .

Furkan Korkmaz is a pure scorer unafraid of letting 3 pter's fly. He's free after this season.
Juancho Hernangomz ,playing and contributing ,but if Michael Porter comes back 100% he'd make Denver REALLY good

Jazz fanz are looking at players who aren't coming to Utah BUT Hernangomez and Korkmaz would fit nicely on the Jazz as good replacements for Crowder and Rubio.

I really like both of those options. I know Locke was pretty rough on him, but D'Angelo Russel is someone I really like. He can control the tempo of a game and just has a beautiful stroke. Put him next to Mitchell and I think they'd play off of each other really well.

Crunch 99 · Post #39 » by **Crunch 99** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:32 pm

Morris knocked down six threes last night. Now he's ranked #12 in NBA for 3p%. The Celtics have gone 9-1 since Morris moved in to the starting lineup. Morris leads all Boston starters in TS% over that run at 65.4%. Morris can also create some shots on his own and play some defense. But now that Morris has moved in to the starting lineup and is doing so well, my dream of picking him up as an under the radar third tier free agent for $11m per year is going kaput. Think he might be moving towards $15m/year now. I am also reading that Morris is being a good teammate.

They Celtics have other positions they need to spend money on next summer, with the big one being re-signing Kyrie Irving. It is unlikely they are going to be in a position to fight for Morris.

Marcus Morris is proving he deserves a lucrative, career-defining contract
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2018/12/11/marcus-morris-has-found-nice-fit-with-celtics/KD5PPmde6aKqoPklreVcBM/story.html

ForeverRDjazz · Post #40 » by **ForeverRDjazz** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:57 pm

Crunch 99 wrote:Morris knocked down six threes last night. Now he's ranked #12 in NBA for 3p%. The Celtics have gone 9-1 since Morris moved in to the starting lineup. Morris leads all Boston starters in TS% over that run at 65.4%. Morris can also create some shots on his own and play some defense. But now that Morris has moved in to the starting lineup and is doing so well, my dream of picking him up as an under the radar third tier free agent for $11m per year is going kaput. Think he might be moving towards $15m/year now. I am also reading that Morris is being a good teammate.

On another note, Hayward has been killing it with efficiency and a great all around game off the bench during Boston's 9-1 run. Hayward is getting his mojo back and will very likely be the better all around player than Morris again. So Boston is over stocked with wings and potential small ball, power forwards. They have other positions they need to spend money on next summer, with the big one being re-signing Kyrie Irving. It is unlikely they are going to be in a position to fight for Morris.

Marcus Morris is proving he deserves a lucrative, career-defining contract
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2018/12/11/marcus-morris-has-found-nice-fit-with-celtics/KD5PPmde6aKqoPklreVcBM/story.html

Maybe the Jazz should think about signing him when he becomes a free agent? Let Cs choke on chokewards contract over next couple years.