Trade Ideas for This Season

[babyjax13]

Exactly, and how many of them could we acquire? Probably not many, but do you know who is replaceable on the roster? Joe Ingles, you know as well as I do he is the benches weak link. When he first came in he was awesome, 3&D and he’s not really either of those right now, I’d rather replace him with a younger 3&D who can keep defenses honest and let Clarkson go to work.

I think a good portion of them are available. Indiana wants Lamb gone, Minnesota has Nowell buried on their depth chart behind Beasley even though Nowell is the better player... Ingles is still good. He's shooting efficiently and moving the ball. I'd rather keep him than risk our second unit just stagnating into Clarkson + Rudy Gay iso ball. But honestly I'm not really in favor of making a trade, I'd rather sign either Danuel House or Kris Dunn and see how it goes. If that hasn't helped some of our issues by the all-star break, then I'd revisit a trade prior to the deadline.

Trade deadline is before the break.

Ah, google said March which was odd but it is February 10th. I think if we could make a signing in the beginning of January if it isn't helping us by the deadline then make a move.

[AingesBurner]

I think a good portion of them are available. Indiana wants Lamb gone, Minnesota has Nowell buried on their depth chart behind Beasley even though Nowell is the better player... Ingles is still good. He's shooting efficiently and moving the ball. I'd rather keep him than risk our second unit just stagnating into Clarkson + Rudy Gay iso ball. But honestly I'm not really in favor of making a trade, I'd rather sign either Danuel House or Kris Dunn and see how it goes. If that hasn't helped some of our issues by the all-star break, then I'd revisit a trade prior to the deadline.

Trade deadline is before the break.

Ah, google said March which was odd but it is February 10th. I think if we could make a signing in the beginning of January if it isn't helping us by the deadline then make a move.

Could be possible but you are only going to further band aid the situation, who minutes is House going to take? Replace the weak link, Ingles is just not the same guy as 2 years ago, he aged super fast, he’s Kyle Korver without the accuracy.

[babyjax13]

Trade deadline is before the break.

Ah, google said March which was odd but it is February 10th. I think if we could make a signing in the beginning of January if it isn't helping us by the deadline then make a move.

Could be possible but you are only going to further band aid the situation, who minutes is House going to take? Replace the weak link, Ingles is just not the same guy as 2 years ago, he aged super fast, he’s Kyle Korver without the accuracy.

You keep saying Ingles is the weak link in the rotation, but he's not, Clarkson and Forrest are. And if you don't have Ingles in the second unit, the ball movement is just going to be horrible, and we often get stuck with someone pounding the ball when Conley is out. I think trading Ingles is creating a lot bigger problem than you think.

[babyjax13]

Really, I think the goal if we had House would be to have one of Royce/House on the court at all time, just to make sure you have someone who can defend. Royce is playing 30 minutes, so you have to create 18. Get rid of all of Forrest's minutes (7) and 5 each from Ingles/Clarkson, and you are there.

[zero24gravity]

Really, I think the goal if we had House would be to have one of Royce/House on the court at all time, just to make sure you have someone who can defend. Royce is playing 30 minutes, so you have to create 18. Get rid of all of Forrest's minutes (7) and 5 each from Ingles/Clarkson, and you are there.

House signed a 10 day with New York today. May mean the end of his availability, depending on how that stint goes.

[Catchall]

Joe Ingles' name is in trade rumors again... https://hoopshype.com/rumor/joe-ingles-a-name-to-wactch-at-the-trade-deadline/

Players in the $13M/year range that might be of interest to the Jazz: Christian Wood, Josh Hart, Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, and maybe a package from Atlanta with Cam Reddish/Delon Wright. I guess Robert Covington fits in that category, but he hasn't been productive for a few years.

[AingesBurner]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021971-nba-trade-rumors-jazzs-joe-ingles-a-name-to-watch-as-rival-execs-discuss-value

[AingesBurner]

Joe Ingles' name is in trade rumors again... https://hoopshype.com/rumor/joe-ingles-a-name-to-wactch-at-the-trade-deadline/

Players in the $13M/year range that might be of interest to the Jazz: Christian Wood, Josh Hart, Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, and maybe a package from Atlanta with Cam Reddish/Delon Wright. I guess Robert Covington fits in that category, but he hasn't been productive for a few years.

Ingles and filler can get us Jerami Grant. Conley-Mitchell-Bogey-Grant-Gobert with O’Neale, Hasson, and Clarkson as the bench.

[Catchall]

Joe Ingles' name is in trade rumors again... https://hoopshype.com/rumor/joe-ingles-a-name-to-wactch-at-the-trade-deadline/

Players in the $13M/year range that might be of interest to the Jazz: Christian Wood, Josh Hart, Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, and maybe a package from Atlanta with Cam Reddish/Delon Wright. I guess Robert Covington fits in that category, but he hasn't been productive for a few years.

Ingles and filler can get us Jerami Grant. Conley-Mitchell-Bogey-Grant-Gobert with O’Neale, Hasson, and Clarkson as the bench.

Grant makes $20M. Ingles' salary won't get it done, and Detroit will likely get better offers for Grant. Maybe Grant's recent injury dampens his market a bit until he comes back and shows he's healthy.

[AingesBurner]

Joe Ingles' name is in trade rumors again... https://hoopshype.com/rumor/joe-ingles-a-name-to-wactch-at-the-trade-deadline/

Players in the $13M/year range that might be of interest to the Jazz: Christian Wood, Josh Hart, Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, and maybe a package from Atlanta with Cam Reddish/Delon Wright. I guess Robert Covington fits in that category, but he hasn't been productive for a few years.

Ingles and filler can get us Jerami Grant. Conley-Mitchell-Bogey-Grant-Gobert with O’Neale, Hasson, and Clarkson as the bench.

Grant makes $20M. Ingles' salary won't get it done, and Detroit will likely get better offers for Grant. Maybe Grant's recent injury dampens his market a bit until he comes back and shows he's healthy.

Already did it on the trade machine.

[babyjax13]

It would have to be a three-team trade and the third team would have to want Ingles more than Grant and also be willing to give a first, because a first several years from now is not going to be the best pick offered, and Ingles is just going to expire and leave Detroit, so they aren't going to attach value to him.

[dr0welf]

I doubt Ingles is being shopped. I just don't see us getting the value back that he brings even if he has fallen off a lot. Their is a lot of locker room stuff and talking that he does that would be hard to replace. We need defense so maybe we can pull Thybulle from Philadelphia. But seeing how Philly seems to want the world for Simmons, I don't see them parting with Thybulle.

[babyjax13]

Utah trades: Joe Ingles, Udoka Azubuike, Miye Oni, 2022 MEM 2nd, 2027 UTA 1st (lottery protected, 2nd)
Utah receives: Duncan Robinson, Jae'Sean Tate
I'd hate to see Joe go, but this gets Utah another perimeter defender, which we sorely need, and at least replaces Joe's shooting even if we lose his playmaking.

Miami trades: Duncan Robinson, 2022 MIA/BRK/HOU 1st (least favorable)
Miami receives: Joe Ingles, Udoka Azubuike, 2022 MEM 2nd
Miami gets off some future money and gets a guy who can fill Robinson's role plus distribute the ball and would be a great personality fit in Miami. This also feels like doing right by Joe if we trade him. Doke I feel confident can become a good backup center, but nothing more.

Houston trades: Jae'Sean Tate
Houston receives: Miye Oni, 2022 MIA/BRK/HOU 1st (least favorable), 2027 UTA 1st (lottery protected, 2nd)
I would assume two firsts for Tate is pretty decent value. Oni isn't much, he can defend really well for a 12th-14th man and hit open threes, so I think he will stick around in the league, but he'll never be more than a third string guy who can pick up spot minutes without hurting you.


Gobert 32/Whiteside 16
Bogdanovic 28/Gay 20
O'neale 28/Tate 20
Mitchell 14/Clarkson 24/Robinson 10
Conley 28/Mitchell 20

And if we followed that with Bojan/Clarkson for Harris/Milton

Gobert 32/Whiteside 16
Harris 30/Gay 18
O'neale 28/Tate 20
Mitchell 14/Robinson 20/Milton 14
Conley 28/Mitchell 20

[Catchall]

I'd talk to the Cavs about Cedi Osman. He'd fit in with our team and offer a little more size and athleticism on the wing. With Rubio's injury, they may need another playmaker.

[red4hf]

Utah trades: Joe Ingles, Udoka Azubuike, Miye Oni, 2022 MEM 2nd, 2027 UTA 1st (lottery protected, 2nd)
Utah receives: Duncan Robinson, Jae'Sean Tate
I'd hate to see Joe go, but this gets Utah another perimeter defender, which we sorely need, and at least replaces Joe's shooting even if we lose his playmaking.

Miami trades: Duncan Robinson, 2022 MIA/BRK/HOU 1st (least favorable)
Miami receives: Joe Ingles, Udoka Azubuike, 2022 MEM 2nd
Miami gets off some future money and gets a guy who can fill Robinson's role plus distribute the ball and would be a great personality fit in Miami. This also feels like doing right by Joe if we trade him. Doke I feel confident can become a good backup center, but nothing more.

Houston trades: Jae'Sean Tate
Houston receives: Miye Oni, 2022 MIA/BRK/HOU 1st (least favorable), 2027 UTA 1st (lottery protected, 2nd)
I would assume two firsts for Tate is pretty decent value. Oni isn't much, he can defend really well for a 12th-14th man and hit open threes, so I think he will stick around in the league, but he'll never be more than a third string guy who can pick up spot minutes without hurting you.


Gobert 32/Whiteside 16
Bogdanovic 28/Gay 20
O'neale 28/Tate 20
Mitchell 14/Clarkson 24/Robinson 10
Conley 28/Mitchell 20

And if we followed that with Bojan/Clarkson for Harris/Milton

Gobert 32/Whiteside 16
Harris 30/Gay 18
O'neale 28/Tate 20
Mitchell 14/Robinson 20/Milton 14
Conley 28/Mitchell 20

So, we'd essentially be paying Robinson $18 mil a year to play 20 minutes, if that? No thanks......

[AingesBurner]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/podcast-danny-ainges-impact-on-jazz-trade-talks-joe-ingles-future/

[babyjax13]

I still just want us to do a second for Nwaba and call it a day.

[D Rog]

I am not necessarily in favor of - or - opposed to the Jazz trading Ingles. I am concerned with how a trade would impact chemistry and if the trade would net somebody that can provide similar skills (shooting and initiating the offense). That being said, did anybody else wonder if the Jazz were about to pull off a trade when Ingles was not available for the Minnesota T-Wolves game?

[AingesBurner]

Warriors game proved major changes are needed.

[sip]

I am not necessarily in favor of - or - opposed to the Jazz trading Ingles. I am concerned with how a trade would impact chemistry and if the trade would net somebody that can provide similar skills (shooting and initiating the offense). That being said, did anybody else wonder if the Jazz were about to pull off a trade when Ingles was not available for the Minnesota T-Wolves game?

Who cares about team chemistry. If they wanted to stick together they would try to play perimeter defense. Instead we have 2 straight epic playoff collapses and once again we did nothing to address perimeter defense in the offseason. This team is clearly on the downside and with all these old guys the ball is going to start rolling fast. Particularly because Snyder shows no interest in developing younger players. What a waste of a season.

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