Around the NBA, 2022-23 season

[red4hf]

Steve Nash is no longer Brooklyn's head coach.

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He sucked, this might actually be bad for us.......

[ForeverRDjazz]

Steve Nash is no longer Brooklyn's head coach.

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He sucked, this might actually be bad for us.......

I don't know want Nash was making to coach but what ever they were paying him wasn't enough to coach these fragile little drama queens. Steve has plenty of money and doesn't need that garbage.

[Inigo Montoya]

He sucked, this might actually be bad for us.......

He made the same mistake Kidd made (with the same team, no less) by becoming a head coach without any prior coaching experience. It made for a rough start for his career and he was also known at the time as a bad coach and had to improve on the fly. Now he's actually a pretty good coach. Nash may follow the same route. And while I don't think he did a very good job, I also don't think he was in a good situation that really allowed him to coach to begin with. In fact, I think that's why Irving and Durant wanted him in the first place--because they thought they'll be the de-facto coaches (especially Irving).

[red4hf]

He sucked, this might actually be bad for us.......

He made the same mistake Kidd made (with the same team, no less) by becoming a head coach without any prior coaching experience. It made for a rough start for his career and he was also known at the time as a bad coach and had to improve on the fly. Now he's actually a pretty good coach. Nash may follow the same route. And while I don't think he did a very good job, I also don't think he was in a good situation that really allowed him to coach to begin with. In fact, I think that's why Irving and Durant wanted him in the first place--because they thought they'll be the de-facto coaches (especially Irving).

I think you're right about everything you said....... Hopefully, they just self-destruct........

[FJS]

Gobert just shot one time in yesterday's game.

If he felt teammates weren't searching for him in Utah, in Wolves either. And they lose for 4th time in 8 games.

[Inigo Montoya]

Gobert just shot one time in yesterday's game.

If he felt teammates weren't searching for him in Utah, in Wolves either. And they lose for 4th time in 8 games.

Then maybe he's the problem and not his teammates if it happens with two different teams. Maybe the fact that he still can't score anything that isn't a dunk that was set up for him by others is the issue so maybe he should develop one offensive move after being in the league for 9 seasons.

In the end, I think the Wolves will encounter the same problems the Jazz had and they will be exploited in the playoffs in the same way.

[FJS]

Gobert just shot one time in yesterday's game.

If he felt teammates weren't searching for him in Utah, in Wolves either. And they lose for 4th time in 8 games.

Then maybe he's the problem and not his teammates if it happens with two different teams. Maybe the fact that he still can't score anything that isn't a dunk that was set up for him by others is the issue so maybe he should develop one offensive move after being in the league for 9 seasons.

In the end, I think the Wolves will encounter the same problems the Jazz had and they will be exploited in the playoffs in the same way.

Still 7 points with one shot (he missed) it's impressive... lol.

[Inigo Montoya]

Gobert just shot one time in yesterday's game.

If he felt teammates weren't searching for him in Utah, in Wolves either. And they lose for 4th time in 8 games.

Then maybe he's the problem and not his teammates if it happens with two different teams. Maybe the fact that he still can't score anything that isn't a dunk that was set up for him by others is the issue so maybe he should develop one offensive move after being in the league for 9 seasons.

In the end, I think the Wolves will encounter the same problems the Jazz had and they will be exploited in the playoffs in the same way.

Still 7 points with one shot (he missed) it's impressive... lol.

Not as impressive as Rip Hamilton, who is the only NBA player to ever lead his team in scoring in a game without making any filed goals (he made 14-14 free throws).

Spoiler:

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Tayshaun Prince	33:29	4	8	.500	0	1	.000	5	5	1.000	2	1	3	1	0	0	1	2	13	-17
Chauncey Billups	31:13	3	9	.333	2	5	.400	0	1	.000	0	1	1	5	1	0	6	2	8	-26
Ben Wallace	29:56	1	8	.125	0	0		1	2	.500	3	9	12	3	1	4	2	0	3	-18
Richard Hamilton	27:23	0	10	.000	0	1	.000	14	14	1.000	3	3	6	1	1	0	3	0	14	-8
Rasheed Wallace	25:14	3	7	.429	1	2	.500	0	0		2	5	7	0	1	0	2	2	7	-19
Antonio McDyess	22:46	2	6	.333	0	0		2	2	1.000	0	0	0	1	0	1	5	4	6	-17
Lindsey Hunter	21:21	4	7	.571	0	1	.000	0	0		2	0	2	1	2	0	2	2	8	+1
Anthony Goldwire	15:17	1	6	.167	1	3	.333	7	8	.875	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	10	-8
Ronald Dupree	15:17	3	3	1.000	1	1	1.000	0	0		1	3	4	0	0	0	1	1	7	-8
Darko Milicic	10:00	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		1	0	1	1	0	2	1	1	0	+2
Darvin Ham	7:13	0	0		0	0		1	4	.250	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	+4
Elden Campbell	0:51	0	2	.000	0	1	.000	2	2	1.000	1	1	2	0	0	1	0	0	2	+4
Team Totals	240	21	67	.313	5	15	.333	32	38	.842	15	25	40	13	6	8	23	15	79

[FJS]

Then maybe he's the problem and not his teammates if it happens with two different teams. Maybe the fact that he still can't score anything that isn't a dunk that was set up for him by others is the issue so maybe he should develop one offensive move after being in the league for 9 seasons.

In the end, I think the Wolves will encounter the same problems the Jazz had and they will be exploited in the playoffs in the same way.

Still 7 points with one shot (he missed) it's impressive... lol.

Not as impressive as Rip Hamilton, who is the only NBA player to ever lead his team in scoring in a game without making any filed goals (he made 14-14 free throws).

Spoiler:

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Tayshaun Prince	33:29	4	8	.500	0	1	.000	5	5	1.000	2	1	3	1	0	0	1	2	13	-17
Chauncey Billups	31:13	3	9	.333	2	5	.400	0	1	.000	0	1	1	5	1	0	6	2	8	-26
Ben Wallace	29:56	1	8	.125	0	0		1	2	.500	3	9	12	3	1	4	2	0	3	-18
Richard Hamilton	27:23	0	10	.000	0	1	.000	14	14	1.000	3	3	6	1	1	0	3	0	14	-8
Rasheed Wallace	25:14	3	7	.429	1	2	.500	0	0		2	5	7	0	1	0	2	2	7	-19
Antonio McDyess	22:46	2	6	.333	0	0		2	2	1.000	0	0	0	1	0	1	5	4	6	-17
Lindsey Hunter	21:21	4	7	.571	0	1	.000	0	0		2	0	2	1	2	0	2	2	8	+1
Anthony Goldwire	15:17	1	6	.167	1	3	.333	7	8	.875	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	10	-8
Ronald Dupree	15:17	3	3	1.000	1	1	1.000	0	0		1	3	4	0	0	0	1	1	7	-8
Darko Milicic	10:00	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		1	0	1	1	0	2	1	1	0	+2
Darvin Ham	7:13	0	0		0	0		1	4	.250	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	+4
Elden Campbell	0:51	0	2	.000	0	1	.000	2	2	1.000	1	1	2	0	0	1	0	0	2	+4
Team Totals	240	21	67	.313	5	15	.333	32	38	.842	15	25	40	13	6	8	23	15	79

He went 0/10 FG, 14/14 FT...
Gobert 0/1 FG, 7/7 FT... so at least he was much more efficient.

[red4hf]

Philadelphia lost, very good......

[Inigo Montoya]

Cam Johnson of the Suns will have surgery for a torn meniscus. Crowder is also not playing for them so they have need for wings. An opportunity for a trade with the Jazz, perhaps?

[Crunch 99]

Way too early for these numbers to actually mean much, but was something I was curious about, so figured I'd share.

Former Jazz starters seasons at this point, during the Jazz's 3-0 start.

Donovan Mitchell (CLE 2-1); 38 mpg, 33.3 ppg, 49 FG%, 42% 3's, 5.5 rpg, 7.0 apg, 2.0 spg
Rudy Gobert (MIN 2-1); 32 mpg, 15.7 ppg, 62% FG, 18.0 rpg, 1.3 bpg
Bojan Bogdanovic (DET 1-2); 31 mpg, 19.3 ppg, 49% FG, 50% 3's, 4.0 rpg, 2.7 apg
Royce O'Neale (BKN 1-1); 37 mpg, 8.5ppg, 43 FG%, 43% 3's, 5.5 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.5 spg, 2 bpg

All 4 guys are succeeding thus far, which is great to see. 33 ppg on great shooting, plus playmaking for Mitchell. 18 rebounds per game for Rudy. Bogey scoring at a high level. Royce filling the stat sheet everywhere other than scoring (but still shooting 3's well).

Update:
Donovan Mitchell (CLE 8-1); 39 mpg, 31.4 ppg, 49 FG%, 41% 3's, 4.5 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.5 spg
Rudy Gobert (MIN 5-5); 32 mpg, 12.6 ppg, 59% FG, 13.9 rpg, 1.6 bpg
Bojan Bogdanovic (DET 2-8); 31 mpg, 20.2 ppg, 50% FG, 49% 3's, 3.3 rpg, 1.9 apg
Royce O'Neale (BKN 4-6); 36 mpg, 10.5 ppg, 40 FG%, 41% 3's, 4.2 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.7 bpg

Cleveland looks like a serious contender, but now that Garland is back, I am not convinced that continuing to play Mitchell 39 mpg with career high fga/game and high usage is the optimal way to proceed. Mitchell has been absolutely killing it, playing hard on both ends of the floor, but I am not sure his ankles and hot shooting percentages will hold up for high minutes and usage over a long season, and there are other capable mouths to feed, Garland, Allen and Mobley, that could make Cleveland a more rounded team.

[Inigo Montoya]

Mitchell has been great, but from the little I've seen, I haven't spotted much of an improvement from Mobley, which is the biggest key for the Cavs being a contender going forward, imho.

[vryadli]

Current Lakers is most scary team. They already have 3 generational talents including a preseason MVP candidate - and lead the NBA in tanking race. That is already huge! But imagine them getting first pick this year... and next... and next... They are on their way to become strongest est team ever in any sport!!

[ForeverRDjazz]

Current Lakers is most scary team. They already have 3 generational talents including a preseason MVP candidate - and lead the NBA in tanking race. That is already huge! But imagine them getting first pick this year... and next... and next... They are on their way to become strongest est team ever in any sport!!

Al la the Wolves...

[AingesBurner]

Current Lakers is most scary team. They already have 3 generational talents including a preseason MVP candidate - and lead the NBA in tanking race. That is already huge! But imagine them getting first pick this year... and next... and next... They are on their way to become strongest est team ever in any sport!!

Not sure if this should be highlighted green?

[Inigo Montoya]

Current Lakers is most scary team. They already have 3 generational talents including a preseason MVP candidate - and lead the NBA in tanking race. That is already huge! But imagine them getting first pick this year... and next... and next... They are on their way to become strongest est team ever in any sport!!

Not sure if this should be highlighted green?

He's joking and being sarcastic. The Lakers are a mess.

[Crunch 99]

In a pre-season discussion on tanking in the GB, I saw a post suggesting there should be a further tweak to the lottery rules to prevent a team from being in the 3 team lottery for the top pick three years in a row, and I agree.

With their 2-11 start, the Rockets are in strong contention to come out of the season with the worst record in the NBA for the third season in a row. That is a difficult feat to pull off and the Rockets should not be rewarded for it. Wall recently said he could have played last season, but the Rockets sat him out.

[Crunch 99]

Royce O'neale gets himself a triple double and game winning tip-in with 0.7 secs left on the clock!

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[zero24gravity]

Royce O'neale gets himself a triple double and game winning tip-in with 0.7 secs left on the clock!

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I was going to post about this, as well.

Good job Royce! An undervalued player during his time with the Jazz, IMO. A solid role player that will do anything that's asked of him. Congrats to Royce on his night.